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Nice: "Thank you for the input, I prefer to do it the way I have been, which is equally effective and works for me. If you believe it is causing issues elsewhere in our workflow we can bring it up with manager "
Less Nice: "I understand, but no thank you."
Less nice than that: While maintaining direct eye contact, "No."
Not nice: "Shouldn't you be doing your job and not mine?"
Satisfying, but likely get you fired: "Fuck off."
spot on answer, I'll use every one of those progressively.
Is the end result the same? Sometimes the right process gets better end results. Especially if you're a new hire, it's worth considering doing it their way just out of humility.
I feel you believe you are my boss. You are not. Stop telling me how to work. It's tiring. You have your way of doing things, I've got mine, both equally good. Should you have a problem with this, contact the charge or manager. I'm gonna go work now.
This is an extremely aggressive way to speak to someone. It's a little wild that this is what you came up with trying to be neutral and diplomatic. Genuinely makes me question if you're understanding this person and your role correctly.
If you're certain that doing it your way is just as good then I recommend the following message:
Hi [person's name]! I wanted to thank you for your help getting me situated into this new role at [company name]. I really appreciate the difficulties of integrating a new team member, and I want you to know I'm 100% committed to doing good work together.
My personal experience with projects like these involves a work flow that looks more like [x, y, z], and the clients that I've worked for using this process were always happy with the results. The process you showed me where it's [a, b, c] doesn't make as much sense to me, perhaps we can schedule some time to go over why it's more effective doing it [a, b, c] rather than [x, y, z]? Otherwise, just for the sake of completing the project ASAP I would prefer using the way I have more experience with.
Happy to discuss this with you further at anytime and excited about the great things we'll be making together π
That's a bullet proof corporate email any manager would take a look at and know you're not the problem.
Itβs a little wild that this is what you came up with trying to be neutral and diplomatic.
that's why this post is titled 'can you help me...?'
Genuinely makes me question if youβre understanding this person and your role correctly.
I only know she's not my boss and my role is the same as her.
I don't understand why you believe you know my role better than me.
I wouldn't do this over email. To be effective, the message has to be said next time she feels entitled to 'correct' me.
but, just my 2 cents
I only know she's not my boss and my role is the same as her.
They've been in the role longer than you have, that gives them seniority over you.
I don't understand why you believe you know my role better than me.
You've been purposely vague about your role so I am left to make a best guess.
I wouldn't do this over email. To be effective, the message has to be said next time she feels entitled to 'correct' me.
You should do it over email so there is a written record and no miscommunication. You could even CC your supervisor if you wajt to play hardball.
Your currently strategy is to snap at her the next time she annoys you. Not a good look for a new hire.
keep assuming
Okay you're a nurse. You should get over yourself and just do it the way the other nurse is showing you. Be humble π«Ά
Ask them to show you how itβs done.
Do the same thing next time.
Back away slowly and leave them to it.
Go and have a coffee.
Ask for a raise as you are good at managing people to do the work.
"Thanks for the advice, but this way is working out for me. If prefers I do it differently, they'll let me know."
I feel like this is just the right amount of curtness.
Top of my head something like "I appreciate your input however I prefer to handle things in my own way. Both our methods are efficient and can coexist. If you do have concerns, please direct it at our supervisor. Thank you for understanding." But I would wait for more answers first just to get more feedback
Edit: in case things do escalate for whatever reason do yourself a favor and keep copies of your communications with her. Just document everything
Maybe more blunt: Please stop interrupting my work.
"It's great you've found a way that works for you, I do it a little differently which works great for me", smile and leave.
"You're not the boss of me" :-)
Sometimes a simple βNoβ works wonders.
I would just say thanks for your opinion, but I will do this the way I want to.
I will do this the way I know is more effective for me.
Do not go to your unit manager with this shit. Take report, give care, give report, leave. Otherwise acknowledge and move on. Every nurse thinks they're the best nurse. It's just how it is.
If you don't want to talk to someone, just tell them you forgot to chart something and then ignore them. They'll get the hint.
This is a profession that, for better or worse, attracts type A personalities.
Edit: and most charge nurses would not intervene in this either.
Thanks for sharing! (then go on and do it whatever way you prefer as long as you feel it's equally correct and are willing to defend that if called in by your manager)