Decades? Try centuries.
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A god damned millenia.
Two god damned millennia.
why is god damming us for so long?! /s
Because of the Original Sin. He is a fricking jealous and petty god.
Because of the Original Sin. He is a fricking jealous and petty god.
"Ikr?" - Galileo Galilei
Anyone up for some D&D?
For anyone who isn't aware of the Satanic Panic, this was a pretty fun time to be a D&D player:
https://gizmodo.com/a-brief-history-of-satanic-panic-in-the-1980s-1679476373
https://gizmodo.com/how-we-won-the-war-on-dungeons-dragons-1550936588
I believe the culture war junk is part of distract and divide tactics. 'hey parents don't worry about all the bloodshed from neoliberal policies, your kids are summoning demons!'
That’s why I wear my “Let’s summon demons!” shirt at every opportunity. Pearl clutching intensifies!
You can't just mention D&D and Satanic Panic without sharing the Chick Tract.
:D I absolutely should have. I think I had at least a half dozen of these specific ones in physical form at one point back in the day.
Edit: Last time this came up I learned of this. 😀 https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNYxu1LqkyT3Ihj7l2n2WSH0KlqOJaEio
The campaigns to ban video games by Christian groups is one of the biggest examples of cancel culture in modern times.
"Christians"
If I call myself a Scotsman, despite not meeting the definition of a Scotsman (never been to Scotland, have no Scottish heritage) then it would be fair to call me not a "True Scotsman."
If the definition of "Christian" is "someone who follows the teachings of Jesus" then someone who spreads hate does not meet that definition.
If the definition of "Christian" is "anyone who calls themselves a Christian" then the definition is so broad it is useless as a descriptor. It includes someone who is loving and caring, and someone who abuses and murders anyone they disagree with. It tells you nothing about the individual or how they behave.
If the definition of "Christian" is "someone who follows the teachings of Jesus"
If that’s your definition then there are no Christians.
Dolly Parton
I don’t think Dolly Parton hates her family.
If that’s your definition then there are no Christians.
Ok, so you're going with the word is useless as a descriptor.
No, I’m saying that christians are people who claim to be christian.
No, I’m saying that christians are people who claim to be christian.
As I said, useless as a descriptor. By that definition the word "Christian" includes someone who donates time to charities, as well as someone who spreads hate about immigrants, wants them sent back to their own countries, and wants to bomb those countries.
The word "Christian" could be applied to a person that wants to take away a woman's right to medical care, and to a person that is pro-choice.
Hell, the word "Christian" could apply to someone who has never set foot inside a church, has never seen a Bible, and has no idea what's even in it, as long as they "claim they are a Christian."
By that definition if I tell you someone is a Christian it doesn't tell you if that person loves Trans people or hates them. As I said, a useless descriptor.
- Attend Churches where pastors and preachers proselytize about anything "Sinful"
- Call themselves Christian proudly
- Wears crosses
- Says its forbidden by God to do something that the Bible says is bad
- Uses the words of Saint Paul to expand on those words
Damn that sounds like they are Christian, but you know, I guess they're "not true Christians" because they happen to do everything on Saturday instead of Sunday, or don't wash the feet of the poor, or something else that caused a schism 200 years ago.
Weird. None of that actually mentions Jeeeeeeesus or the things he supposedly said and did.
Weird how all the hate comes from things the apparent Son of God didn't do, but they chose to believe in those things instead.
It's like they're hypocrites. False shepards.
Fake Christians.
Jesus: Love thy neighbour
These people: act in ways that is the opposite of loving their neighbour
Sure as fuck sounds like they aren't following the teaching of Jesus. Going to a church doesn't make someone a Christian any more than going to my garage makes me a mechanic.
Well, yeah, but it's not supposed to happen to them. They're the ones who are supposed to be in charge, not just morally and ethically, but also economically. If they can get called out for their bullshit it's a warning sign to them. Their massive privileges are being eroded and it scares the shit out of them.
How much have you read about the history of religion?
If they're not doing it to others, they're doing it to themselves. The last time there wasn't a Christian church leader ranting about an evil person was around year 0.
When was the last time there wasn't an atheist ranting about how evil Christians are?
Seems to me fundy Christians and atheists are two sides of the same obnoxious coin.
What do you even mean? By that standard everyone is obnoxious.
Or perhaps you think the lightweight religious folk are magically less obnoxious? I dunno.
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Actually, everybody complains about cancel culture. And Christians.
Why yes, cancelling, shunning, etc is bad.
So the takeaway is that when we take power we should do the bad things the previous group in power did?
It's not the same thing.
Judging behaviour and actions is entirely different to judging people for who they are.
People are compiled of their actions and behaviors so I am not really getting what you are trying to say.
Some traits are inherent / congenital, historically these were used to judge and "cancel" people
Still are at times
I dont recall the religious right cancelling people due to their inherent characteristics. On the other hand, the left actively discriminates against people for the same thing.
Oh really? I wonder if a religions have ever used gender to define what roles a person can have and who gets a platform?
I'm not sure if we're just definitely terms differently or you're lacking an understanding of history here.
The religious right has always given a voice to a small number of people and cancelled everyone else
So you are going to point to women cant be head pastors in some churches as indication that they cancel people due to inherent characteristics?
*American Christians.
A lot more than just American xtians. There are countries where people cannot get safe, legal abortions because of the stranglehold that xtians have on the political class. Likewise access to contraceptives and even basic reproductive education within the school system. The Roman Catholic Church has been far more destructive than American xtians.
You see, it's true: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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Literally every accusation from a right winger is a confession