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Macs naturally can not be stolen or obtain second hand as a gift or in some other sort of deal.

As Linux enthusiast I think I have to jump in and say if you're not using a 10-year-old Thinkpad bought second hand running EndeavorOS you're not a true socialist

(Obviously I'm not serious but Poe's Law is a bitch)

It's because they aren't using a used ThinkPad

Damn you capitalism for forcing me to buy a mac!

Also a product isn't a bad product, just because it is produced under capitalism. A computers ability to compute does not depend on its mode of production.

Oh sorry, I forgot I had the option of pulling a "Sliders" and finding myself in Socialism world, where I can get a tax-payer funded laptop and coffee I get according to my needs, paid for by what I can give with my abilities... Completely fair to judge me for that!

Another point to her cause I haven't seen in the comments -

How old is that MacBook and how many hands has it passed through? In my experience, anybody with new (any tech really but ESPECIALLY) Apple products keeps that shiz pristine. I grab a cheap laptop off CL though I'll absolutely sticker it up.

My vote is she's in a school program or something that requires macos stuff and grabbed it second hand off someone on the cheap.

... or maybe she thought it's an edgy sticker and fits her style?

Idk. But if you really were serious about smashing capitalism, it's kinda irrelevant how much stuff you buy, there's a lot of groundwork to be done, organizing and educating. For all we know, that may be what she's doing in that photo.

If she dressed in rags, owned nothing and was homeless, I fail to see how that would accomplish anything more.

Although I prefer to support local businesses, not a fan of massive corporate chains. My city has dozens of local coffee shops that serve fair trade products. I can walk to a half dozen of them, whether or not I bring my ancient 2011 laptop. But I do love my principles being questioned by smug internet randos so 🖕

But Apple is one of the good embodiment of capitalism. It is a symbol of excessive consumption, surveillance for profit, and consumer-right abuse.

That being said, is not like most popular alternatives are any better. If people don't have time to switch to or even heard about better alternatives (upgradeable open hardware running an open community-driven OS), I guess it is not their fault.

Starbucks, however, has many alternatives (at least in the U.S.) that doesn't involve as much union busting and harmful labor practices.

Your not allowed to have things if you don't support capitalism, you must live like a preindustrial peasant or else you are a hypocrite. /s

Really a fucken mac and a cup of coffee is trivial compared to billionaires and their private jets and mega yachts.

1200$ isn't even that much for a luxury item jeez and its not even really a luxury item. For an absolute fuck load of jobs, as well as online billing and banking and a whole host of other crap its 100% a requirement to own your own laptop. Yes it would be great if that wasn't necessary, hence the anti capitalism, but individuals fucking themselves over by trying to pointlessly abstain from participating is not going to solve things.

I don't drive, I don't own a car, I fucking hate cars, but I don't shit on people who have one because I understand its necessary for them. And even with me trying to abstain I still end up dependent on cars a lot and in a lot of ways it fucking makes my life more difficult. I am fucking mad at the systems that made that a requirement not at the people who are just trying to survive in the system. Its not magic how we ended up here, people in power made choices.

Thats what's so annoying about these lines of reasoning is you get accused of hypocrisy if you don't intentionally make your life shit

Paying $7 for very shitty coffee is still a strange decision to me, but I understand

Well an argument against Apple products specifically is that they promote anti consumer trends.

Proprietary cables, unrepairable devices, having an ecosystem that is hostile to third party devices, popularising things like sealed batteries or removal of headphone jacks.

Apple actively is making the tech world worse imo.

Imagine owning a laptop that you can't replace ram or the ssd of.

Nobody is forcing you to buy a mac and a Starbucks 🤣

that would be me with my $150 kitted out ebay special thinkpad (ignore that i own four of them, they're spare parts and i can gift them to people. They're good laptops) somewhere, in a place, i don't like business establishments.

Needs more words

"artificially inflated in value"? I'd like to see someone's proposal for how they plan on making a high end laptop and a fancy drink made by someone else, which also comes with wifi and a nice place to sit any cheaper.

I wouldn't buy them but they're not artificially inflated.

Edit: wait where is the Starbucks? I don't see it in the pic

To be fair, no system is perfect. Allowing people to both disconnect and be better at least acknowledges that the society needs both an eye inside and an eye from outside in order to improve

So a perspective I haven’t seen here yet: in many places, Starbucks is the only suitable third space left. I.e. place that is not work/school or home. I have non-Starbucks cafes nearby, but due to astronomical and increasing rent for all the independent cafes in walking distance, they are in smaller buildings and they can’t afford to have people sitting for hours on laptops using the WiFi/talking to friends/reading a book. I still support my local cafes for food and coffee, or really short meetings with folks, but if I need to get out of the house and spend time in public where I’m not obligated to speedrun my coffee, Starbucks is The Choice.

And that’s why i might be inside of a Starbucks while hating capitalism. Because capitalism made Starbucks the only corporation able to afford proper cafe space.

(There is a library nearby, yes, but not with good space for sitting down and working on a laptop. And even having THAT Is a massive privilege)

(Also I actually do have a MacBook that I do my personal stuff on, because of various bits of software i need that are OS specific, which is annoying as heck but i got used to my work mac anyways and then found a nice one used… so yeah.)

Vaguely related.. reminding me of my struggle as I research investing in new laptop.

Looking for something powerful enough for live DJ, live music production performance with groove box, keyboard, etc, ideally graphic design sufficient as well. Want ability to move my crafts to a buddy's studio or a proper gig.

Big needs of course are robust processing power/ram, loads of storage ideal, battery life a big plus, quieter than gaming PC preferred, lots of ports a must, and goddammit I want it to last more than a few years before it declines sharply.

I really don't want an Apple. Been there; done that; over it. College graphic design machine had a graphic card that crapped out extra early. Plenty of spots would recommend Apple. Haven't gone too deep on Linux so no idea if software and live performance will work on that consistently and reliably. Generally use mostly Windows 10 these days.

If anyone has any insights or recommendations on a lappy that checks my boxes I am all ears and eager for discussion!

Least wordy leftist meme.

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