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[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It would seem that the end user has no idea what "cut" means. I never have to "go back to the original directory to delete the originals". That is what "cut" is for.

Besides, as other comments pointed out, one can make a multiple selection, and then, in conjunction with "cut", it will work exactly like the feature described at the end. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think what the user is trying to say: I'm moving a large number of files to different locations. So selecting a large number of files and copy pasting isn't really helpful. I can imagine navigating to a folder, selecting the right file, copy, navigate to the other folder, paste etc. to be very inefficient. I can imagine in such a case a copy to / move to feature is useful and I have seen that feature in a lot of other places.

Of course the user would be helped somewhat if he understood what cut meant and the other commenter isn't really helpful in this aspect. Just saying: "There is cut" doesn't help if the user doesn't understand what cut means.

Also calling a user out like this is really uncool, the user obviously doesn't have English as a first language and/or has trouble expressing their selves. This doesn't invalidate them or their request.

[–] ReversalHatchery 2 points 8 months ago

I have thought about that too, but I'm pretty sure the user has difficulties even before that, like they are copying one by one and then deleting from the old place.

But considering the shrug face at the end, and I also think there's something wrong with this bug report, I have a feeling that this is not even a honest issue.

[–] neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I use material files and when you press the cut icon, it literally says "move to" while you are selecting the destination

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not what they are requesting.

[–] neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They are requesting a context menu option, no? And the ability to move multiple items?

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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The context menu would literally say "Move To"/"Copy To" and open either a further drop-down with potential destinations: ... or a pop-over dialogue something like this:

Originally Windows pointed this feature to users' Downloads, Pictures, and Documents Folders, but as you can infer from the screenshots, the menu was configurable.

I do not need and probably wouldn't impliment this feature in a mobile file manager app, but I would be telling the OP I just don't want to do it because its my app with my aesthetic/sensibilities in mind, NOT gaslighting/trolling them that its already implimented.

[–] neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Well i don't think they are trolling i imagine they legitamately don't realize that is what the poster is wanting. It's not very clear

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

That's my initial impression as well, but it also seems that they just don't care, and will refuse to until its made clear to them just what a bad look this is, and nothing short of an accusation of impropriety has done the trick yet.

I doubt english is their first language, but more importantly, it seems like there's a culture disconnect versus mainstream western pr bullshit ... which actually serves a useful purpose for once, in this instance.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Tbh I am not surprised there are people who don't know what cut is. When I was in school a lot of people around me though it was just the graphical button to delete things. I think UI tried to solve the problem since them : cutting won't delete a file but will just shade it, which makes it more obvious that you should do another action.

[–] Wes_Dev@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is barely related, but I've recently discovered it using Firefox and just wanted to share my misery. If you're not using Chrome with the Google Docs extension, then Google Sheets will REFUSE to let you copy and paste with a right click context menu. But you can just press the keyboard keys to do so, or use the menu options to do so.

Like...what? It works, but they refuse to let you do it with the context menu, despite including them in the context menu.

If you try, it pops up a window and tells you that you have to install their extension or pound sand.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, well, I would advise you against using google docs, but at least you are using Firefox 😅

[–] statue7559@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would you censor a name if you leave the rest of the identifying information there?

https://github.com/zhanghai/MaterialFiles/issues/1144

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No reason to name an person just to make fun of what they wrote. Why would you go out of your way to find the original issue?

[–] exu@feditown.com 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's really not out of the way though

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Not out of the way but they are the ones who searched for it and posted it here

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 8 months ago

Which side of the conversation are we mocking here? Guessing the user is unaware they can select multiple files at a time ... but I've also found the menu options they are asking for useful in the past.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, most file managers don't have "copy to" feature. But, some file managers allow opening multiple panes so copy-paste operation is not as painful when you need to collect a lot of files from different locations in your phone.

[–] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Material Files actually does allow for multiple windows on Android

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

No one cares. It does NOT have the feature requested in the OP:

X-plore File Manager does: