this post was submitted on 05 Mar 2024
147 points (100.0% liked)

Linux

1258 readers
67 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 7 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exciting to see! Positively surprised Alpine is modular enough to make this feasible/maintainable.
Curious to see what the part about SystemD and musl at the end meant.

[–] aport@programming.dev 12 points 8 months ago

Our current understanding having spoken to systemd developers is that we should be able to find a path that brings us much closer to upstream, if not entirely.

The only way the systemd developers will allow musl support upstream is if musl supports the glibc-isms that systemd uses.

They have been extremely clear that they will not carry patches for other libcs.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 months ago

Makes sense

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So it will be only Systemd, no s6 or whatever without hacks and compatibility shims... sounds like bad news to me.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

So it will be only Systemd

what? no. did you read the linked post? Some desktop environments will have more functionality and work better if you do use it, but (for now, at least) you can still run even GNOME under OpenRC if you want.

[–] fullmetalScience@monero.town 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is bad news for those of us who were not only looking to give old mobile hardware a longer lifespan, but simultaneously obtain privacy and security while doing so.

The arguments provided in the blog post are rather faint and give a vibe of "holding on to last straws", as other distributions and even BSD's have managed to run both GNOME and KDE fine, even before pmOS.

For readers unfamiliar with systemd's drawbacks, these resources can serve as good starting points:

without-systemd.org // nosystemd.org



Out of curiosity: Can you point to a log of the communication with the Alpine team?