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[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 8 months ago

this map just makes me think of imperialism and the uncountable number of cultures and histories lost

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t Anglo culture still mostly Latin? Did the influence of uniquely Anglo culture survive romanization?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Well, first off, because the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes only invaded the British Isles after the Western Roman Empire fell, second off because it was never a Latin culture outside of certain cities it was still, broadly speaking, Celtic and would remain so through several more waves of Sea Germans and their dubious understandings of consent, property ownership, and human kindness.

Also, it's not just "Anglia," Angle tribal territory was a pretty significant portion of Jutland, that peninsula region it's part of.

Speaking of which, as mentioned before, the Saxons and Jutes, the other tribes on the peninsula, also invaded with the Angles so that whole damn idea of "Anglo culture" deriving from Anglia alone is just agenda driven revisionism.

Hell, what about the Norman invasion? Norman, aka Frenchified Viking culture, was just as impactful on what became English culture, and Rollo's crew of ne'er-do-wells were largely recruited in Norway prior to conquering the northern French coast.

And let's not even get STARTED on Latin culture apparently having no cultural impact through the majority of the eastern Roman empire, including Greece and Anatolia, despite the Eastern Roman Empire only falling in 1453.

Like, are you fucking seriously not going to give the Byzantines a nod while you pretend Romania is a Latin culture?

I SPIT ON THIS MAP

Well the vibe is still broadly correct tho. Replace "Anglia" with just, you know, England, and it's better, even if it's hilariously Eurocentric. I realize the maker broadly wanted a global cultural impact map but that notably shortchanges at least the Arabs and the Mongolians and/or Turkic peoples in the map painting departments.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The British Isles were invaded so many times by so many different groups it's ridiculous. You really have to wonder what they all expected to find there.

[–] tissek@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well when you come from that is to become Denmark it is understandable that you nope out of that region. Because kamelaasa.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 months ago

kamelaasa

According to context, I believe this is a Denmarkian tradition of expelling, ass first, all camels from the Denmarkish homeland, which is why, to this very day, you still won’t find many camels roaming the streets of Copenhagen, if I recall correctly.

[–] ichmagrum@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

Invading countries was pretty much the norm back then, the migration period didn't just take place in England. You have any idea how often France or Italy got invaded?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 8 months ago

And to think most of it might have been avoided if Boudicca's army didn't get cocky.