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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In Australia we have a system called the NDIS and while it still requires all of the above once you're on it there is a little freedom to decide how to spend the funds that you are allocated for support.

Despite the fraud percentage rate being in single digits (even including genuine mistakes) people are still up in arms about it because they're brainwashed morons who don't understand that fighting this minuscule amount of fraud costs more than accepting it. They just want disabled people, whom they see as beneath them, to suffer.

Meanwhile, we spent the last decade handing out billions in corporate welfare and that was perfectly okay. We're also going to purchase several hundred billion in US subs and piss off our neighbours because of "China" fear mongering.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago

We also had robodebt.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m in the UK and have a number of chronic illnesses that would be debilitating on their own. All together it’s honestly a struggle to survive. When I was first diagnosed 17 years ago we had a labour government. I applied for Disability living allowance (now called PIP) and Employment and support allowance and based on the medical evidence I submitted I was declared “permanently unable to work due to disability”. I was to inform them of any changes to my health but otherwise I was done. No more assessments, no more forms. It wasn’t a lot of money, but it was enough for food, clothes, rent and utilities.

Then the Tory government took over and decided that my genetic, incurable and life threatening illnesses might somehow resolve themselves if they just kept bugging me enough. So every 3 years for the last 15 years I’ve had to go through increasingly lengthy and humiliating assessments, conducted by staff who are less and less qualified to make these conditions. I’m currently 15 months into my latest review. Over a year of stress, uncertainty and worry on top of what I already deal with. By the time they make their decision (and there is absolutely no guarantee the decision will be in my favour) I’ll have about a years peace before having to go through this dehumanising process again.

It’s disgusting.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

It takes 15 fucking months for you to get what you deserve? I thought German bureaucracy is slow but damn. I hope for you that this changes. That's disgusting.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What could ever go wrong if just got their support approved, no questions asked?

[–] MeepsTheBard@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 9 months ago

(not sure if that was sarcastic)

If it truly ever got to that point, then yes, things like spot check audits to act as a deterrent could make sense. But when our current system penalizes a community for abusing a privilege they don't even have, it's hard to look at the huge and unnecessary costs and say "we're making the most out of our tax dollars."

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And the death penalty costs more than living in prison for the rest of your life. Sometimes the most profitable/cheapest way is the good way.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't call life imprisonment in any way "good" but I take your point.

[–] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In my neck of the woods, the infamous disability attorney Eric C. Conn made his practice and of course cleaned up through some crooked means. Though to his credit, cut through all this bureaucratic bullshit and delivered relief to a bunch of folks in dire need of it. In that respect he's a freaking humanitarian.
Sadly, when he was finally busted all those claims got thrown back onto the dumpster fire and many got denied by default or are still in dispute.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeesh, a "stage tribunal," it sounds like something from the pre-christian Roman ages of throwing "unfit" people to the lions. I'll never know why, but our best talent as humans is finding more ways to bungle simple processes with bloated amounts of red tape and hoops to jump through - especially when the people who most need the benefits are least able to navigate those things.