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[–] QualifiedKitten@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't have any experience with Usenet or any current DDL sources. I generally check public trackers first, then private trackers, and mostly use private trackers when I can't find something on public trackers.
My selfish reasoning is that with public trackers, I don't have to worry about my seed ratio, etc. I generally seed to a 3.0 ratio, and I do have some older/more niche stuff set to infinity, but when I need to clear some space in my seed box, it's nice to be able to delete stuff without worrying I'll be penalized.
From a less selfish perspective, if it exists in decent quality on public trackers, I'd rather contribute to keeping it alive there, where more people can access it.

[–] drunkensailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

From a less selfish perspective, if it exists in decent quality on public trackers, I’d rather contribute to keeping it alive there, where more people can access it.

This is the way. If more people did this then arguably no one would even need private trackers...

[–] Markoff@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

check Indian Pahe or PSA WF, both for DDL links, they are quite fast and pretty good quality X265 rips, better than YTS and most of the stuff, X265 Pahe on par with rarbg

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

At first, anything that was free. Then I found the *arrs, moved to Usenet and never looked back.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

If I download something:
I don't care about quality:
Public > Private > Usenet > DDL

If I care about quality:
Private/Usenet> Public (I will download public if the group is the same) > DDL

I can't find it:
Anything that has some part of it. Usually DDL or some streaming site.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Depends mostly on what content you want to load. Public trackers are fine for popular stuff like Netflix shows or Hollywood movies in English, but you run into trouble as soon as you want more nieche things like audiobooks or movies in your native language. For that you need specialized private trackers or usenet indexers, idk which is better though. One requires invites and seeding, the other usually cost a few bugs extra, so it kinda depends what you prefer.

DDL without a debrid service is pretty bad imo, you'll constantly find things on hosters you don't have a premium accounts with. Even with a debrid service it's hit or miss, especially since links on some hosters get DMCAed very quickly. It's ok for one-off downloads every now and then, but the fact that there isn't even an option to automate the process is pretty telling.

[–] Markoff@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

DDL is fine if you know where to look, Indian pahe uploads to mega, onedrive, pixeldrain, especially the last one has pretty much no limits and their X265 rips are on par with rarbg

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Private trackers.

[–] retro@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago

Usenet > DDL > Private > Public

Usenet is the easiest to automate. I can set it and forget it. For DDL, I use two private sites so I know the quality of what I'm getting. Private I need to worry about ratio, but quality will be more controlled than public.

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Using private trackers for many years and never had a reason to try usenet, but only hear good storries about it. Public trackers are actually backup in my arr apps, but they are almost never used.

[–] Markoff@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

public tracker I can easily search directly from qbit, also good for newest releases

Pahe for DDL stuff, if I want better X265 quality at small size (PSA used to be good, but they fucked up something and I can't play their X265 rips anymore on TV, X265 Pahe rips always work)

ain't gonna pay for usenet or getting invited to private tracker

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

I switched to xdcc

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Private trackers. Better quality assurance than public trackers, free unlike usenet.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Usenet. You can download files at high speeds and don't have to fulfill any requirements. But it's insanely hard to get into the top usenet indexers.

[–] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? Just pay a subscription fee. Or am I missing something?

[–] spiderman@ani.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you first have to get invited for that right?

[–] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, just go to one of the websites and subscribe. It's dead simple.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

top tier usenet providers don't work like that. i wish they would though.

[–] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Seriously? I'm subscribed to eweka and news hosting for nntp, as well as nzbgeek and nzbfinder for my indexers. Nzbgeek has a lifetime subscription option. You can get anything you're looking for. It's a simple subscription process.

What are you considering as 'top tier' that won't take a subscription?

Some sites for reference:

https://reddit.com/r/usenet/w/indexers?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[–] spiderman@ani.social 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

sorry to break your bubble, they are good but they aren't the top tier usenet indexers i am talking about.

the top tier i am talking about has a "fight club's rule 1". they take donations but simply won't give you an account if you are willing to get inside.

[–] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then what are some of them? What are they providing that the others don't?

[–] Jimmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

He is probably talking about nzbs.in or omgwtfnzbs.me

[–] beaxingu@kbin.run 0 points 9 months ago

Usenet is easier to take down because its a centralized server and you essentially just pay for retention of files. the better Usenet providers have longer retention.

[–] le_throosh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

Public trackers for filesize over quality and modern codecs like av1 or x265. Private trackers for harder to find stuff or good quality over filesize.