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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 87 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wait! Those torrent clients are written with programming languages! We should sue the people who made the programming languages for encouraging piracy!

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And pirates are using hardware to commit their dirty deeds!

Maybe this is how technological society crumbles, one lawsuit at a time.

[–] lea@feddit.de 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's funny that you mention hardware, cause in Germany you pay a set fee for each device (13.19€ for a computer, 6.25€ for a phone) on purchase since it could be used to create copies of media.

I'm just getting my money's worth, officer.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 7 points 8 months ago

In Denmark it is lawful copies of a media. Problem is that almost all media is copyright protected and it is illegal to circumvent that. So essentially it is a free tax for the organization that represents the artists without any checks and balances to make sure those money actually get distributed to the artists afterwards.

[–] Krait@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which fee are you referring to? Never heard of that

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

If I can prove that I downloaded a torrent of an AppleTV show on my Mac, will Apple sue itself?

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 3 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile the writers of assembly - the root of all programming languages - are shaking in their boots.

[–] smitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 8 months ago (4 children)

So parents can sue gun companies right?

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And they can sue the state for giving out driver's license

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's just a tool...for killing, very efficient killing tool

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

True, and a knife is an effective tool for cutting, the problem comes in when one decides instead of shooting some paper or cutting a steak, they shoot or cut a person (excluding legal self defense ofc, that's fine).

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, that’s different. People kill people, not guns.

/s

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Torrent clients don't download torrents, people download torrents. See? No difference.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Actually, torrent clients download files, not torrents.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Point, set, match!

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[–] Hupf@feddit.de 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They should sue movie producers. After all, they regularly supply the pirates with fresh wares.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 50 points 8 months ago

Someone doesn't understand peer2peer filesharing. Next they will sue Microsoft for allowing pirated thing to run...

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

plenty of legal uses of the protocol. whats different here?

e.

Grande doesn’t explain why or when developers of torrent clients should be held liable for piracy. Popular torrent clients and sites that distribute this software are typically content-neutral and don’t actively encourage piracy. That is similar to the defense Grande relies on.

just graspin at straws it seems

[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 20 points 8 months ago

In a way, they're making a point. Just because they provide internet shouldn't mean that they are the ones that should pay damages to record companies. But neither should torrent client developers. If you can't catch the end user, then that's your problem. If you're that concerned, make your material more accessibile.

[–] JelloBrains@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well if that argument works out for the studios, Oneida better get ready because I'll be seeing them in court. After all, they made the spoons that I used to eat the ice cream that made me fat.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

The same people that would use the "they made the software that was used for infringement" will be the ones stating that "the manufacturer of this firearm is not responsible for it being used in this mass-shooting".

Kinda funny how the main driving point behind their argument is "does this affect me and my bottom line"

[–] ben@lef.li 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

With that logic they should sue the creators of the AV1 codec as well. Lots of pirated movies will be encoded with it....

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago

They should sue Alan Turing and John von Neumann.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 8 months ago

It's not a serious suggestion, they're just using this as a "fuck off" response to the record labels.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 months ago

You can sue anyone for anything - doesn't mean you're going to win.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago

lol good luck tracking down someone who releases software into the wild.

[–] ghjsh8@lemy.lol 5 points 8 months ago

Completely insane.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

Sie the stupid animal that crawled out of the water so we evolved into humans, who can pirate digital goods.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why is it always that a torrentfreak link is posted here and it's something negative and fear mongering?

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because part of their job is sharing all the batshit people argue in court that affects the space?

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Whose job? And why does inconsequential rubbish that will be laughed at need to be reported?

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

Torrent Freak's.

They cover news in the torrent and piracy space. This is very clearly news. It's literally the whole purpose of the site.

[–] drunkensailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is why I like to have multiple aliases and always connect via vpn... harder to sue me if they can't figure out who I really am.

On that note, it would be really cool if there was a TOR-based github alternative (or even an I2P-based one) for hosting project repos somewhere that take-downs have no effect and servers can't be seized. Anybody aware of anything like that? then again, I'm not even sure how I would configure git / ssh to use a TOR-based server lol