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[–] _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The term British Isles is, of course, disputed by the Irish.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

They had a signpost in the Atlantic saying “Irish Isles” for weeks before we noticed.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

How about we collective reestablish the name "Albion", then?

[–] onion@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think this chart is out of date

[–] catacomb 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting though as it shows what "hard Brexit" was. Not in the customs union, economic area or council; just yeeted all the way out.

The best part is the voting slip never defined any of it and, if taken literally, the UK would still be in the EEA.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

We’re currently alone in two new zones called “Fucked around” and “Found out”.

[–] sqgl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

eg Croatia is now in the EU and Eurozone (maybe Schengen area too).

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This chart: "England, Scotland and Wales are in Great Britain"

Wight, the Scillies, Anglesey, Sheppy, Anglesey, the Shetlands, the Orkneys, the Hebrides, and thousands more: "Are we a joke to you?"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Sheppey is a joke to everyone including the people that have to live there.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m trying to remember though, aren’t the Jersey, Guernsey, and Man somehow closer to Scotland or Wales status than say Sheppey or the Orkneys?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the channel islands and the Isle of Man have more autonomy. Officially they are "self-governing British Crown Dependencies".

Jersey and Guernsey have different VAT rates for instance. For years, play.com was based in Jersey solely so they wouldn't have to pay VAT on most of the cheaper stuff they sold to the mainland.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't those all part of one of the other three? The orkneys and Hebrides are part of Scotland.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's my point: they're all part of England/Scotland/Wales, but they aren't part of Great Britain.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of those are in Great Britain, because they are islands and therefore not part of the island of Great Britain.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

But they are all part of England, Scotland or Wales which, according to the diagram, are within Great Britain...

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FYI "British Islands" isn't a specific name whereas all the others are

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not sure I follow. It looks as specific in the diagram as all the other names?

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

It's not an actual term that is used though. "Great Britain" and "Ireland" are the names of the islands, "the United Kingdom" and "(the Republic of) Ireland" are the names of the sovereign states, "the British Isles" is (one) name for all the bits of land. "British Islands" is not an official term or one that anyone uses.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Huh, is that the old Jersey?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup. Though original is probably the better description.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

The new jersey is extra crispy

[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They prefer the term "Jersey Classic"

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Ye Olde Jersey

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

and the Original Guernsey (not to be confused with the new one)

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

A quiet little tax haven full of polite stuffy old people. I'm thinking of visiting the new one, I assume it's much the same?

[–] incogtino@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

This is a good way to distinguish the terms. I wonder if there is a good colour scheme to also indicate the nation states as district from the landmasses

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just call em all cunts, except for the irish those cunts are cool.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Englishman, I can't have you talking down on the Scots. They're the only ones left which are still decent

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So you're saying they're decent cunts?

[–] schnokobaer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Now if someone can tell me what exactly "Britain" is? People say it all the time, like this is the largest statue of a vulva in Britain. Just shorthand for Great Britain, or is it something else?

[–] Diobhal@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just that - shorthand for Great Britain. Easier to use when you don't think it's so great, like if you live in the Republic of Ireland!

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republic of Ireland

Which on the diagram is coterminous with “Ireland (state)”?

[–] Diobhal@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly - that's it's proper name and how it's distinguished from Northern Ireland since they share the land mass of Ireland

[–] Diobhal@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

You did a great job on this though, OP. It's difficult to explain to non-nationals with no idea of the history, so this is very helpful

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Most people not from the UK will use "Britain" as an alternative word for "England".

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

It's like saying America to mean the United States. Technically America includes Canada and excludes Hawaii. But when people say America they actually mean US + Alaska and Hawaii but not Canada.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I'm late to the party here, but this is a very early version of a diagram I'm putting together that corrects a couple of issues with the diagram OP posted.

As I said: very early and also very incomplete, but what's there is accurate.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I’m into it! I can’t wait to see where this goes.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

they call the state ROI (republic of ireland) to distinguish between the island