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[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Biologically, tomatoes are fruit. Culinarily, tomatoes are vegetables.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

I dunno, even in a culinary sense, tomatoes are way too acidic to lump in with vegetables imo. The textures are totally different from veggies too

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think vegetable sounds right either. No one crushes up broccoli or carrots to make sauce for pizza and you don't add tomatoes to your roast veggies.

[–] Pepsi@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago

I love playing around with recipes so have indeed made broc and carrot sauces, but this is kind of all about what feels right to say. And I think that there's a lot of cases where it feels wrong to describe tomato as a vegetable. Kind of how I'd feel odd calling lettuce a vegetable.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay but if someone offered me a pizza with broccoli or carrot sauce I'd have to politely, but firmly refuse

[–] fristislurper@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Your definition of vegetable is "cannot be used as base for pizza sauce"? Oddly specific.

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

The whole basis for calling it a vegetable is "I don't want to call it a fruit" so let's not get too pedantic here.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not sure where I said that, I was referring to nachorella's comment up thread. If you want to know my definition, it's pretty much aligned with the science definition. Fruits: the parts of the plant containing seeds (with the exception of pods). Vegetables: the rest of the plant (including pods)

[–] MrCookieRespect@reddthat.com 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tomatos are a made up by Italians to sell more "tomato" sauce.

[–] BlueFairyPainter@feddit.de 10 points 8 months ago

I see the image must have been cropped off to the right

[–] survivalmachine 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Knowledge is knowing tomato is a fruit.

Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

[–] heatiskillingme@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

This is how I always explain the difference between INT and WIS to RPG newbies. It gets the point across really well.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ones a culinary term, the other is a biology term.

[–] Eagle0600@yiffit.net 4 points 8 months ago

The problem with the culinary term "vegetable" is that, properly, it applies to any edible part of a plant, and improperly, it's basically a useless distinction.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tomatoes are berries, even

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

do you know how this meme or bell curves work? should be the dummy saying vegetable, the majority saying fruit, and the genius (on the right...) saying it's a vegetable

[–] BlueFairyPainter@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Guess we just know different people then

[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago

If I ever see one of you fuckers put a tomato in a fruit salad I will shit your pants

[–] rasensprenger@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

The effective vibe is much more important than any underlying biology.

Tomatoes are vegetables.

[–] woodgen@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

The left one should say "fruits", while the right one should say "fruit"

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Errbuddy wanna talk about tomatoes but the real question is, are bananas fruit? Some varietals are sweet and clearly belong in desserts and fruit salads, some are savory and starchy like potatoes, depending on the culinary tradition you come from they're used in both contexts, and they can and should have seeds but they don't due to selective breeding. Tomatoes exist in an ambiguous state, but bananas are somehow both at all times.

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bananas are technically berries, which makes them a fruit. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone think of a banana as a non-fruit before

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Plantains are bananas (same species, different varietals) and in many cultures are used in savory contexts

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about those. Funnily enough, here in Spain bananas are plátanos and plantains are bananas

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

ahem different models for different circumstances.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Vegetables" makes no sense.

Tomatoes, grapes, apples, cucumber, pumpkin, eggplant, mushrooms, all fruits.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was with you until mushrooms, those ain't even plants

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

We are talking about "fruits" here which isnt even a term used to describe plants. Maybe in english, not in german.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

mushrooms are not fruits in any sense. Fruiting body is applied colloquially however since spores are not fruits this is also incorrect.

However much like with calling a tomato a fruit, it's perfectly clear to call the penis loo lookin' thing a fruiting body and only derranged pedants are bothered by it.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Fruits are a specific part of the plant, the seed-bearing part (pods and ferns are the exceptions, I guess). Veggies are the rest of the plant. Mushrooms are fungi's and all, don't get me wrong, but they're not plants

[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

All fruits are vegetables, so everyone is right.