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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 42 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I will always appreciate a true Excel power user. I've seen some black magic shit.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 9 months ago

This is one of my favorites to share. It's a 3D engine with raytracing with no VBA scripting - all of the calculations are done internally with spreadsheet math.

[–] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Good Excel users think themselves better than a beginner. Great Excel users think themselves somewhere between Intermediate and Advanced. Excel Masters, and I know one who placed in that Excel data modeling competition, know they’re somewhere in the Intermediate to Advanced range.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but it's the kind of black magic where you accidentally summon Cthulhu and only notice it, after he destroyed half of the city.

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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 41 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Excel is a powerful tool. I was solving system of differential equations with Newton method in it. Sometimes it is easier than in Matlab (or Mathematica) if all you have is good understanding of how step-wise equations should look like, but not the differential equations themselves. Those steps may include if statements, for example.

[–] harry315@feddit.de 15 points 9 months ago

Had to do a similar project and it took me three full days of back and forth with another software before I found out EXCEL rounds small numbers in very weird ways.

Also, in EXCEL functions/formulas and data/values are wildly mixed.

(Not mentioning a plethora of other mildly infuriating quirks here)

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What does it do that LibreOffice Calc doesn't do?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 14 points 9 months ago

Almost nothing, considering Calc is a clone. I don't think people are excluding LibreOffice from the list of smooth brain apps.

[–] Moira_Mayhem 8 points 9 months ago

Embed objects and query spaces from other Microsoft products, mainly.

It's a circular argument that all of the corporate world is too heavily invested in to change.

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Does libre office do pivot charts?

[–] TheOakTree 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Call me crazy, but the admittance matrix hw (Gaussian, G-S, Newton, N-R, etc.) I did last semester was much more intuitive for me on MATLAB than on Excel... but I'm gonna get screwed for that because a vast majority of companies would never bother to pay for MATLAB (+ Toolboxes) licenses.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

There is always Octave.
And I am not claiming that Excel is better than Matlab. There are lots of tasks where Matlab is better, or where it is not even possible to use Excel with any efficiency. And yet, Excel IS a powerful tool for scientists and engineers. Not just for accountants.

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

We have a single licence for matlab installed on an old laptop in the lab. I find it easier to program in Excel than try to reserve the laptop and go to the office (sometimes you reserve it and after arriving you find out that the last guy never returned it so you spend extra time trying to find where it is or who has it)

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[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Being a SOLIDWORKS customer is exactly the same as being a rat in a cage. They are the most aggressively evil I’ve ever experienced. Adobe etc not even close

[–] MayonnaiseArch 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah I wanted to comment on this too. It's a win for ms against dassault every time

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not that bad when you sail the high seas

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[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 26 points 9 months ago

Is it just me or is office 365 just worse and more impractical than the old office suites?

[–] noctisatrae 20 points 9 months ago

Solidworks, Matlab is not exactly what you call CHAD open-source tech as opposed to Python where you can get shit done with it.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Ribbon interface used on office products isn't there because it's good UX. It exists because there's a software patent on it.

If office didn't use a patented UI, someone could make office software that replicated the UI of MS Office which would allow companies to switch to other products without having to retrain staff.

Microsoft was enshittifying their software long before anyone else.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

No matter where you stand on your views of the ribbon, Microsoft introduced it in what, 2007? The patent is gonna expire soon.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

There's a middleground. Power Automate. The website crashes Firefox.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That bottom row of wojaks are ableist as hell, I really wish people would stop using them.

[–] Buttermilk@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

4chan is a perpetual blight on memetic culture

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I really hate when their shit sticks..

[–] neptune@dmv.social 6 points 9 months ago

Wojacks are the laziest shit ever. So ugly. So annoying. And yes absolutely ableist and other worthless stereotypes

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 9 months ago

Me: oracle, oracle and more oracle

Damnit, who put a maze with no exits in this cage?

[–] Truck_kun 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use python occasionally at work.

... Not IT approved, but well... we use an MSP, and I get to be a decision maker in the company for certain things, and just do it, because well.... I can, and the company keeps me around partially for the things I do with python and sql.

I would like to say Pandas should be used for much of that excel stuff, maybe even replace it, but... Microsoft has decided to bring Python capabilities into excel, so that will likely cement them in your workflow even further:

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/excel-blog/announcing-python-in-excel-combining-the-power-of-python-and-the/ba-p/3893439

[–] Buttermilk@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

I've found the selling point in not needing to open excel and click around to run the script. So often people need to do like the same three things and don't even know how to write Python, so giving them a script to drag your file onto is a step up from excel

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

despite all my rage i'm still just a rat in a cave

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago

Capitalism somehow means managers know better than you how STEM work should be done. Sigh... get used to it if you want to continue.:-| Make some FOSS on the side for fun?:-)

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What is stopping you from proposing better software?

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Never worked in a corporate environment?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure I have.

If you spin it by saying it would improve productivity, they'll listen and pretend it was their idea all along.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Or (way more likely) they'll just not listen or find excuses. That's how large corporations work. Do you really think, you'd be the first one to propose that maybe excel isn't the best tool for the job?

[–] Moira_Mayhem 3 points 9 months ago

Mainly corporate momentum.

The decision to shift out of the microsoft is too costly at this point for even medium sized businesses to consider.

[–] p000l@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

Nothing. It's the listening bit from the receiving end that's the problem.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Engineer in uni vs engineering job?

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

They missed using Access incorrectly with too many users and too large of a database.

[–] cduke23 2 points 9 months ago

Man I guess I’m spoiled. We get access to the top row except SolidWorks because we license an alternative. We use the entire MS suite too though but as a supplement. I don’t use excel hardly at all because JMP is superior in every single way, except for dashboards where we use PowerBI.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 2 points 9 months ago

I for one think this demonstrates how overpriced universities are. All of academia is comparable to a ponzi scheme.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use mainly python at work, but usually exit to excel to share the results to other people.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 9 months ago

I use Pandas, but im sure i have that library installed for Pandas use.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

I'm in university and I use both...

[–] Eryn6844 1 points 9 months ago

So True, what about Automic, and Imformatica? Also Oracle..

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