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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple isn't that much of an asshole, it only does all the dick moves it is legally allowed to.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't think of any worse assholes except Google.

Just because they make nice looking hardware, you give them a pass.

[–] hangukdise@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Samsung finally ditched the stupid curved glass, so Androidland now has nice hardware too

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good luck with that. Their phones are filled with ads and Samsung’s crappy software that can’t be removed. Apple and Google do the same thing, but their apps are at least good. As good as Samsung’s hardware is, they mess up the package with their hot garbage software.

[–] hangukdise@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I do wholeheartedly agree that Samsung writes shit software tho, but their customizations for the last seven years stopped frying my phone. (S2 was okay, S3 was such a dumpster fire of a phone caused by Samsung's deplorable coding)

I have the impression that OS restrictions imposed by Google on latest versions of Android and - perhaps - the move to Kotlin improved it. I have been using a S10+ and had no issues with software. Crappy software can be removed without root using ADB and, in my region, Samsung does not bundle carrier crap (except stupid Facebook stuff that is still present in S10 and even S24 series)

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I never understood that. Made me stop buying Samsung phones, also because they added a price premium. Turns out that the best Android phones are Motorola phones like the Edge 30. No crapware at all and fantastic battery time.

[–] Moira_Mayhem 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never understood this

iPhones are fashion accessories before anything else.

Samsung for some fuckdamn reason just copycats everything Apple does.

The curved glass was a stupid, expensive, and failure prone attempt at capturing the fashion accessory market.

All it did was piss off eight years of customers.

It really is amazing how companies with ridiculous amounts of money for research and product testing and they hang on to an abject failure like this for so long.

[–] hangukdise@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All it did was piss off eight years of customers.

Yes, curved glass serves no function and introduces a vulnerable point, prone for cracking

And makes it basically impossible to get a glass screen protector.

[–] Moira_Mayhem 3 points 11 months ago

And makes just holding it normally cause misclicks as the edge of your fingertips brush the curved glass.

Honestly I would be a lot less pissed about it if they just hadn't extended the touch sensitivity all the way around the curve.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking forward to the day I have the cash for Fairphone or some other alt to Android/iOS

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh I didn't know about fair phone. Thank you for making me aware of this project.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Very welcome, my friend.

[–] Undertaker@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Be aware that their hardware has cross gen problems and their support is very bad. /e/os has implemented tracking id into their update service. They are calling cleanapk, they update OS and Webview extremly slow resulting in a very insecure OS.

[–] torbjoern@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they update OS and Webview extremly slow resulting in a very insecure OS.

I've recently got monthly updates. The last one from 2024-01-09 containing Android security patches until 12/2023.

[–] gjkroese@mastodon.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@torbjoern @Undertaker 💡migrate to #grapheneos on a #degoogled #pixel and enjoy lightning fast ⚡ OS updates for #android14 whilst using an excellent piece of mobile hardware without #tracking

[–] torbjoern@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah, well, I'm not gonna give up my potentially long-living #Fairphone (due to excellent repairability) for a Pixel crafted from rare-earth minerals of dubious origin, just because you're #shilling it.

[–] torbjoern@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can recommend flashing /e/OS to de-google the Fairphone. Running smoothly on my FP3 since 2021.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 31 points 1 year ago

Yes, they are also as painful as possible for every other browser. That's the point.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 17 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Apple’s new rules in the European Union mean browsers like Firefox can finally use their own engines on iOS.

Although this may seem like a welcome change, Mozilla spokesperson Damiano DeMonte tells The Verge it’s “extremely disappointed” with the way things turned out.

“We are still reviewing the technical details but are extremely disappointed with Apple’s proposed plan to restrict the newly-announced BrowserEngineKit to EU-specific apps,” DeMonte says.

In iOS 17.4, Apple will no longer force browsers in the EU to use WebKit, the underlying engine that powers Safari.

“Apple’s proposals fail to give consumers viable choices by making it as painful as possible for others to provide competitive alternatives to Safari,” DeMonte adds.

Epic CEO Tim Sweeney called the new terms a “horror show,” while Spotify said the changes are a “farce.” Apple’s guidelines are still pending approval by the EU Commission.


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[–] arquebus_x@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, right up front, they're being disingenuous:

“The effect of this would be to force an independent browser like Firefox to build and maintain two separate browser implementations — a burden Apple themselves will not have to bear.”

...No? Apple won't bear that burden because they're going to keep using WebKit. Firefox can keep using WebKit. Not using WebKit is a choice, with pros and cons.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

Well maybe Apple shouldn't be so hostile to other browsers. Honestly I don't see why Firefox would bother will web kit. If they might as well not make a iversion.

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Wonder if you could get an eu iPhone in the us, or use a vpn, or something else…