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Um, I think we all just won | Biden is halting the biggest fossil fuel expansion on earth (billmckibben.substack.com)
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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This will be the model for future developments of climate change policy ....

"As the world becomes inhospitable, people die, liveable environments evaporate, forests burn, ocean acidify, and weather worsens ... we have to first think of the economy and the finances of a hand full of people who we all have to sacrifice ourselves for because their money is more important than our lives."

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

He blocked the fossil fuel projects for now. I call that a win.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

...for now...

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 22 points 9 months ago

The ability to impose large delays on capital-intensive projects tends to keep them from getting built. I'll take it as a win

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

Venturre Global has a $4.5billion dollar loan with 8.125% intrest nad 8.375% intrest depending on the due date. That means every year delay costs them $365million.

All of that is part of $7.8 billion finanancing they have secured, so this might very well be half a billion dollars they loose every year.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago

The things he's done have been dripping out at a slow and steady pace since Inauguration Day. He hasn't been perfect, with a couple of missteps along the way, but a world better than any Republican would have been

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[–] flowerofanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Quit doing a victory lap hoping for Biden to fix it. He is no friend of environmentalists he is a neoliberal who is tanking his chances at relection to support a genocide.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He's the moderate compromise candidate, instead of the one who is out to tank the environment for spite. He's been doing a lot of the right things.

I'll go for that any day.

[–] flowerofanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Vote for who you vote for. I'm in a hard blue state and I see zero reason to vote for Biden in the general. Those in swing states should vote for the democratic nominee that exists because to not do so helps Trump. In states where Biden is for sure going to win people should vote for someone else.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Compromise cannidates don't work. They let the country go right with no benefit. You know which cannidate actually got lots of crossover votes from Republicans? Bernie Sanders

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sanders had the support of about 1/3 of the Democrats. You can't get somebody like that to actually be the nominee unless you get the rest of the Democrats to support their policies.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

he got screwed over by the party, twice. primary elections explicitly aren't free and fair, legally

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

If he had a majority of Democratic primary voters behind him, that wouldn't have mattered so much. The reason he was leading was that the moderates were split across many candidates.

[–] Donk@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago

fingers crossed!

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We'll win if we mitigate global warming to.1.5°C. I don't see Biden phasing out coal and fossil gas or setting lowered targets for oil. No, as it is, we will exceed 2.0°C.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

He doesn't set targets for any of them. Full phase-out won't happen in his term, but Biden did set a policy of gradually ending them:

This can reasonably be said to be part of it.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, so has almost every country in the world. Men are words, and words are wind.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He has gone through with a pile of policies which to try and achieve that though, and US emissions are falling.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not falling fast enough, not falling for 1.5°C. Don’t do PR for presidents who don’t give two shits about reaching climate goals.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Definitely not enough for 1.5C; whether recent policy changes get it to fall fast enough for 2C is an open question. They might if we can keep them in place after the election and the rest of the world joins in.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Anything less than 1.5°C is defeatism and is literally the end of the world as we know it. It will literally mean mass death. I won’t settle for a 2°C target.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll be fighting for every fraction of a degree, but I don't seriously expect to pull off 1.5C seeing as we're likely to pass that point permanently within the next couple years

[–] GretaGrizz@kolektiva.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@silence7 @mambabasa east coast US & Europe better get ready for AMOC to be shutting down as early as 2025. Florida gonna turn blue despite the red MAGAhats.