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[โ€“] 342345@feddit.de 74 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

95โ‚ฌ temporarily until the defects are fixed. Then the 20qm room is worth a rent of 477โ‚ฌ.

The Huurcommissie scored the appointment on a point scale, and determined the reasonable rental price should have been 476.85 euros per month. The tribunal then noted that the tenant was unable to lock their own bedroom. Additionally, the wood-framed kitchen skylight had a 10 millimeter crack in it, causing drafts, and the toilet tank in a shared bathroom was leaking.

The tribunal further lowered the rent to 95.37 euros until the damage is fixed, saying it could find no evidence the landlord actually tried to fix the problems. This can gradually increase as repairs are carried out to the maximum of just under 477 euros. The reduction was also backdated to September 1 from the ruling, which was filed at the end of December and published more recently. As a result, the landlord must repay the overpaid rent in the intervening months.

[โ€“] MadBob@feddit.nl 8 points 9 months ago

Still, โ‚ฌ477 to live on Keizeersgracht, not to mention the backpay. I'm needing a poo just thinking about it.

[โ€“] Bjornir@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago

And he owes around 5kโ‚ฌ in back rent! That is proper justice for once.

[โ€“] not_exactly@feddit.de 72 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Me: Mom, can we please have Huurcommissie?

Mom: No, we have Huurcommissie at home.

Huurcommissie at home: landlord fined for charging 'too little' in rent

[โ€“] shani66@ani.social 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] neo@feddit.de 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The argument is: if your rent is that cheap, you probably have a side deal going on (like extra pay or work for housing) to avoid taxes and/or social security contributions.

I'm not saying the present system is great, I'm just explaining it and unfortunately some people indeed try "save" taxes that way.

[โ€“] Gieselbrecht@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure this is exactly the argument, I understood it as: "You rent out so cheap you don't want to make a profit, and if you don't want to make a profit you can't make deductions in relation to your properties." Which I don't find great either.

[โ€“] neo@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Mh, I don't think this only affects deductions. Otherwise people could just waive their right do deduct costs related to the housing units discussed in the article. I don't think this would make a huge difference, i.e. I don't think the deductible costs are that significant.

However, if you don't pay your janitor or your nanny properly, but provide them with cheap housing instead, you can (illegally) save a lot of money.

Anyway, that's my guess, but I'm very open to new knowledge. :)

[โ€“] Marsupial@quokk.au 4 points 9 months ago

Ah this is why you need you to pay your monthly minimum rent insurance.

[โ€“] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 9 months ago

NYC landlords renting out literal rat nests for $4000 reading this

[โ€“] PugJesus@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For โ‚ฌ95 a month I would happily make some of my own little repairs and temporary fixes lol

[โ€“] strider@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But then the price goes up again :( It's only โ‚ฌ95 because of the problems in the room. When fixed it goes to about โ‚ฌ470, which is still all right I guess for that location in Amsterdam.

[โ€“] nicetriangle@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You love to see it. The landlord in question is a notorious piece of shit here.

[โ€“] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is he? Who is it? Never heard of an infamous landlord in Amsterdam.

[โ€“] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's Cees van Leeuwen. Someone went into a lot of detail about him in this reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amsterdam/comments/19auxx5/tales_from_the_huurcommissie_4_the_poor_landlord/

And his bullshit has been covered in the news before:

https://archive.ph/b1Lbr#selection-1009.139-1009.155

[โ€“] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

God damn that was a depressing read.

[โ€“] nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Right? Dude is ridiculous.