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Sorry for two new pinned posts within the span of 24 hours. after coming back I figured some of the rules needed some updating, and it is policy to put any rule change up to vote for the members.

The two changes I currently would like to make, is increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule, and a new rule banning AI generated content.

moldy posting is when you post a meme that you would find on your aunt's Facebook page or Elon musk's Twitter account. I'm talking properly old, moldy, watermarked, painfully irrelevant posts. I think we should remove them simply because they kind of suck, and removing them would raise the level of quality of 196.

I believe we should ban AI generated content because it is exploitative by nature, and I don't think we should be feeding it.

please discuss in the comments, and vote on whether or not you think these changes should be made. vote on each change separately. if there are any other rule changes that you would like to suggest, now is the time.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm in favor of the anti AI rule but against the anti moldy posts rule.

Also, could you remove that image from the post, I almost reported the post for "unflagged NSFW" because of it.

Edit: Reported it after an hour for the "unflagged NSFW" maybe that will get their attention on removing the image from the post because there's literally no reason for it to be there.

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago

gormadt I would like to remind you of our NSFW rules. skimpy clothing is not considered NSFW, and neither are breasts. maybe if it was just the woman on the left, it would count as softcore porn, but in the context of my macaroni is a lesbian by Chuck tingle it is obviously more funny than "sexy"

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

I disagree with the anti-AI bandwagon.

I am indifferent to moldy memes.

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago

I don't like the idea of increasing enforcement against moldy posts, just because I'm not super plugged in to things and I don't always know if something is moldy when I post it. Over enforcement of those kind of subjective rules tends to make it difficult for newbies to post.

Completely on board with a no AI art rule though. Fuck AI.

[–] ShadowFox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Not sure about the first change, but I absolutely support the second one. Fuck AI "art"!

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in favor of "Moldy Mondays" as some people have mentioned.

And I support banning AI images, but not when it's like a Twitter screenshot that says something about the image.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I really disliked this feature of many reddit subs where they'd have day of the week themes and posts. This idea in itself is moldy, its just reminds me of a smelly office atmosphere.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've Chuck Tingle posted in the past, so I was concerned that this was going to be an anti-Tingle policy, but fortunately it seems like it's about other things

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

anti-tingle policy
I'd rather die

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago
[–] SmoochyPit 9 points 1 year ago

I’m in favor of both.

Moldy posting can be fun in sarcastic contexts, but I’m not opposed to a full ban since lots of moldy posts makes the sub overall moldy, too.

Gen ai is plagiarism and discourages creativity.

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Moldyposts were fun ironically, but i'm fine moving past them. I'm also on board with giving toaster generated posts the boot. Also, this comment counts as my post before i leave, see you all next sticky

[–] flamingos@ukfli.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe instead of banning mouldy memes, there could be restrictions for when they can be posted. Mouldy Monday or something.

This is good

[–] RavindraNemandi@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

I am in favor of both of these changes. I always feel lowkey like ive been tricked when i realize im looking at AI art, and the moldy posts just feel like mud to slog through sometimes.

[–] S410@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah yes, blanket banning things using logic riddled with faulty generalization and facts proven by assertion. Totally not a bad idea! Totally!

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I'm against banning moldy posting, I agree with banning AI

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Most of my contributions are moldy memes so obviously I don't agree with this rule. This would impact the already little effort I put into my posts. And I know effort isn't something we put into 196 but that's my observation. I'm willing to revisit this later.

I support banning AI memes because those require less than zero effort already.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think this sub should have any more rules.

Ai images can be very funny. And who cares about moldy images? Just downvote.

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Forgot about that, lol.

So stupid.

I wonder what happens if I downvote you.

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I think it actually does change things but only for your specific instance, rather than globally all instances

[–] cobwoms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

water is sick and gross and chocolate milk is better

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see someone has chosen violence today

don't really care either way about the ai thing but deffo ban moldy posts. we already have !funny@lemmy.world or !memes@lemmy.world for that kinda stuff

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here here!

Also is your lawyer accepting new clients?

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry I'm afraid I don't understand. what do you mean by that?

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

While I'm not good at impersonation, let's just say that Mac and cheese rules. And once my true intentions are exposed, I'm going to need that lawyer... Lesbians are cool so I'm doing that thing now where I'm stalling and I'm searching for an answer...

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean by 'increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule'? I thought we only had one rule? /srs

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rules are pinned to the community homepage. think of it like one rule, but lots of regulations

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is all I see pinned on the homepage:

And the sidebar:

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that's weird. maybe it's federation issues?

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see any rules either. I thought this community was like the Reddit one with minimal rules. A shame really.

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's so weird it's been pinned for like 8 months. also the Reddit community literally has rules

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can now see the pinned post so whatever you did worked.

Personally I think all rules should go in the sidebar and not a post but that's just my opinion.

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I repinned it. it seems to be if your instance is newer than when the post was pinned, it won't show up.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I've just went to the community from your instance, and it doesn't appear there either. (I wasn't logged in though, if you'd like I could log in and try again.)

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Eh, yah, think those sound like good rules but I wouldn’t worry about enforcing them to hard unless there’s someone flaunting them repeatedly.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I think AI isnt exploitative by nature. The companies that own it of course are. AI is better as a technology if you are anti-copyright, as copyright almost universally protects profits of publishers and the owning class rather than creative laborers. However, AI also rarely makes interesting images or posts. Its kinda shit.

My take is I'm play with banning AI, but if someone in our community had the skills to use it to make quality posts I would be very open to it.

AI: ban it. Keep an eye open for quality AI posts though. Moldy: Ban it.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is me voicing my dissent against the moldy posts rule, including restricting them to mondays. unless presented with a very clear set of examples that we can all (or majority) agree on, i think there’s no real utility to the rule and it just makes me afraid to post an image that i find genuinely funny.

on a level of pure aesthetics, it also just has a gross feel and i don’t want to log in on mondays to the word ‘moldy’ all over my feed ☹️

@moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone please reconsider this rule or provide more information on the kind of content you intend on removing. i believe this choice to be contra to the spirit of 196.

good choice banning AI tho, thanks for that. 👍

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

NGL the thing that will improve the quality of c/196 is getting me to follow the rule and encouraging original posts rather than sharing content. What makes a community great is understanding those who are in it.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 1 year ago

I agree to both rule changes. Thanks for modding!!! And Thanks everyone in m/196 for keeping me laughing!

[–] janet_catcus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i have no aunt and i dont follow the loner, i am (not really) looking forward to learn what moldy memes are...

oh and fuck ai from the orbit, it's the only way to be sure.