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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 253 points 8 months ago (6 children)

...tantrum...

What a fart gobbler.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 208 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I didn't have a "tantrum" when they blocked my 3rd-party app for corporate reasons... I just stopped using Reddit.

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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 105 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

“Sure, 90% of the sub voted for this and the reasons for shutting down are clearly laid out, but y’all are doing this for literally no reason. Stop throwing a tantrum and give me my memes NOW.”

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think what really bothered me about that whole affair, and why I had my single worst outburst on Discord by a large margin as well that I still feel bad about, was because it was so frustrating seeing so many people who didn’t just disagree with us - I can handle disagreement, I can handle discussion and debate, I can even handle a little heat throughout that process. But people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article!

They were asking the most basic questions, my favorite being “what is this even about? It’s not like you have a reason.” It was insulting really. Here we were spending all this time and effort worrying about the community, Reddit, how to do this in the most fair way possible and produce what we believe to be the best outcome (or at least the outcome the community wanted in the end), and these people couldn’t even read three sentences before screaming at us and calling us names.

People just were not having it, they did not want to even talk about it. And this was just a sub for discussing video games.

[–] pbjamm 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article

This reminds me of when I used to take the time to discuss/argue climate science online. I kind of quit after too many instances with aggressive people who had not bothered to educate themselves on even the most basic science.

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[–] Toribor@corndog.social 75 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Exactly. It's like hey... If the corpos take a dump in your mouth you can either leave or you can stick around and complain about the taste. And yet the people who left are the whiners?

[–] dillekant@slrpnk.net 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

...disappeared...

I wonder where they went...

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 41 points 8 months ago (5 children)

People on reddit genuinely don't know because the L word gets the ban hammer there

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Hey, don't insult fart gobblers

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 185 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Surely, attacking the mods of a community and calling them whiny babies will get you what you want, right?!

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 94 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They are my mods, they should do as I command

[–] don@lemm.ee 66 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’m a motherfuckin user. I log onto this website sometimes. That means I dictate when you shit and for how long. Just be glad your breathing is out of my control. For now.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Aha but your breathing is now under my control now.

You are now aware of your breathing.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People have gotten fucking insane with this "Everybody should do exactly what I think they should do at all times full stop and if they don't they're literal fucking garbage, and if you disagree or care about a different thing than me you're just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff" mentality.

I'm a lefty, and it's an election year which means I get to deal with this for 10 months straight from the dems.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you’re just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff

Title of my sextape

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[–] Yewb@kbin.social 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Landed gentry!

When I read that I never went back.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I never fully understand that, is that an insult? English ain't my first language and I was honestly not sure if I felt offended by that lol, I swear I looked for it on the web, but it wasn't clear for me either.

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 62 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Landed gentry" was a social class of people who owned estates and, well, land. They didn't have to work; they made their income by profiting off the work of the farm hands, merchants, etc, who worked on their land. The estates these landed gentry owned, along with their wealth, would be passed down to their children when they died. It meant the gentry did very little to earn their station in life, but still had a fair amount of power and wealth.

How spez thinks it applies to Reddit mods, I'm not entirely sure. But he definitely meant it as an insult. His full quote was:

And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.

So I guess he was upset that mod teams get to select who else is a good fit to join the mod team? Of course, the issue is that he is the landed gentry - users didn't vote for him, nor can they remove him; and he's profiting off the work of the people who post content and the people who spend their time moderating.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 181 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Love how they bellyache about the mods not doing a good enough job when they spent the final weeks of the June protest harassing the existing mods and and basically dismissing and disrespecting all the work we were doing for the past decade. They just expected things to go back to business as usual and the mods should just shut up and continue doing unpaid janitorial duties for the benefit of spez out of sheer momentum I guess? The scale of their entitlement is unreal.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, that was part of the reason I decided to leave. I mean, it wasn’t the only reason by far, but just another item to snowball into the “fuck this platform” that pushed me to leave.

The number of people that actively told me I was dumb, abusing power, and my moderating could be done by anyone was crazy.

Then they bitched about the moderation quality going down when 50% of the moderation actions walked out the door.

[–] retro@infosec.pub 49 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The r/piracy wiki died when I stopped updating it which is a shame, I used to recommend it to everyone. Now I pass them onto FMHY or awesome.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We do have our own piracy wiki here BTW!

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[–] Johanno@feddit.de 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How could you?! As a Karen I demand the r/piracy manager and that he forces you to go back and work for free!

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I wasn’t a mod of r/piracy, I modded r/noahgettheboat.

But yeah, the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.

[–] BurningRiver 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.

New Reddit, in a nutshell. I really liked that sub back when things were good.

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[–] figjam@midwest.social 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"Clean it up janny!" Good on you for getting out

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I always laughed when someone called us a "janitor" after we banned them. Like you understand in this analogy you are the trash being taken out, right?

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 144 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"If you don't like spez decision, then just open up the sub and leave!"

Mods left

"Where is all the mods?"

"They're just butthurt they didn't get any support hue hue hue"

Internet is a funni place.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’ll be honest here: it was pretty fun to respond to people going “well if you hate it here so much, then just leave!“ with “I did, check the sidebar.” I stuck around for a few days after to help the mods with a few unruly threads, banned a few problem users on a different sub I was just sick of, then left forever.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 92 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't they understand the mods leaving is a consequence of that "tantrum"?

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 74 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Seems like the way for reddit to "solve" this is to just close bad subs.

But that's easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed...

Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you've made your entire business unsustainable at scale?

Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don't wanna do that, and "communities" is four whole syllables, and ain't nobody got time for that.

[–] survivalmachine 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"solve"

to make your site good

unsustainable

I think you're misunderstanding reddit's goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don't care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Hopefully it costs them dearly. Kinda like the whole Tumblr censorship fiasco and drastic fall in value but before they sell it. Put #FuckSpez in the poor house

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 32 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Kbin calls them "magazines", which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.

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[–] Lath@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like it here on Lemme. I feel pretty comfy. And most of you here are tech savvy. And if not, at least you have some level of basic true understanding of how technology works., Unlike those impostor syndrome redditors. And I suppose it's a plus that corporations don't hunt us down for discussing piracy.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

the larger we get, the more it will get fucked by ai bots, corporations, and shitty content creators

[–] TheFriendlyArtificer 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The term, "enshitification" is getting bandied about a lot. But the bots and corporations are an inevitable part of capitalism. Make money at all costs, never be satisfied with what you have, and treat everybody that isn't you like a stepping stone.

Scammers and sociopathic c-levels are missing something fundamentally human. A complete lack of empathy. But this has always been a part of our species. The difference now is that we have a system that dramatically rewards that sickness. And that's not even getting into how being able to be evil at scale is going to make the next few decades interesting.

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[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What a goofy interpretation of that series of events. Reddit changes API which fucks over moderators -> mods protest and say if they can't use these tools they can't moderate -> when API restrictions come into effect, mods either leave over moderating being way harder now or basically not being able to mod

Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn't lying to people for fun

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[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

News reports have Reddit making the IPO push this year. Get ready for more DRAMA!

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Will be really sad when the ransomware files get leaked on the IPO date lol

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[–] i_ben_fine@lemmy.one 31 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Silly question: is there a community for real, sailing piracy?

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Not sure how many Somalis use Lemmy and how good their 5G is on the water

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Lol imagine still being on there

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[–] jsalvador@programming.dev 22 points 8 months ago

Considering I found this comment on Reddit, I guess so.

[–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hey, I remember this website from back in the day. They still around or is this old?

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