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[–] nix@merv.news 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What exactly is the appeal of Usenet when almost everything is available through torrents for free? I also never really understood trusting giving out your payment information.

Do people use Usenet as forums besides the ability to share files?

[–] Acid@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

usenet is almost always faster, there's never an issue with torrent lacking seeds and it's theoretically safer as you do not upload any content when downloading which if you do download a lot using torrents will put you in a certain legal grey area about distributing files.

but aside from all of that the integration with the arr stack and the automation makes it just so much more god damned convenient.

[–] CheekyYoghurts@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Provider: Eweka Indexer: Geek

[–] darmok@darmok.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Same here. Would recommend both!

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 10 points 1 year ago
[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol imagine paying for pirating

[–] null@zerobytes.monster 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol and now imagine you can use usenet for free

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

eh, i don't want to juggle free trials

[–] null@zerobytes.monster 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

who speaking about free trials? clearly you dont pirate enough to get things for free (speaking about usenet)

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Broken packages everywhere

[–] tron@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lol imagine being so poor you can't afford 10 dollars a month

[–] ehyuman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

10 dollars a month is a big sum of money in my country.

[–] Gailthesnail@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dollar has gone to shit in the US too. saving $5/month doesnt do crap for my finances when cheapest houses around here are still above $2.5M

[–] ehyuman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, I've been seeing how fucked up the minimum wage and salaries in general are over there. like, everything is affected by inflation BUT the salaries/wages? fucking joke.

[–] sup@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it just me or is usenet a bit expensive? One would need to pay for both an indexer and a provider. Regular public trackers have majority of the content for, well, free. Is obscure stuff on Usenet easier to find?

[–] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i wouldnt waste my time with torrents now. it is one of those things hard to explain but once you make the jump for yourself you will just know and wish you did it long ago. if you are all in for under a $100 per year, i dont consider that expensive at all.

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

that's $100 too much for me

[–] Grandsinge@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree! I turned on the arr/nzbget/nzbhydra/Emby docker stack several years ago and it just works. I add content from my phone and it's downloaded and organized in Emby within 10 minutes. I started with several providers and indexers at first and whittled it down to Eweka (Omicron)/Newsdemon (Usenetexpress) for providers and Geek/Drunkenslug/althub for indexers.

[–] Gailthesnail@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how good is althub? seems like they are focused on ebooks are they good for other media

[–] Grandsinge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

It's my go to for ebooks, but with tv and movies it only pulls ~5% in NZBHydra stats vs the 65% of DS.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Not having to worry about seeders/leeches, ratios, using a VPN, or waiting to download is worth the $6 for everything I pay per month. I can get a 10gb movie in a matter of a few minutes. Once you experience Usenet for yourself, it's really hard to go back to mucking about with torrents. Feels like the dark ages.

As for obscure stuff, yeah, you can still download anything on the server at full speed, no matter how old it is. Most servers have 3-5000 days retention. Never had any trouble finding a TV show, and the oldest I've personally downloaded is a 10 year old show, which of course I downloaded as fast as my connection could handle. No searching for a torrent that's not dead, as long as it's still there, it downloads. No wait, no hassle, just click a button in Sonarr/Radarr and and 30 seconds later I'm watching it.

[–] richneptune@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It's just you. I get easynews for $45 a year on their valentine's plan, includes unlimited nntp, unlimited web (which is really useful given the search) and a free VPN to boot. Bargain of the century

[–] radau@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frugal Usenet, I did the one that gets you the block storage then ended up adding more block storage after that ran up

[–] S0berage@mstdn.ca 4 points 1 year ago

@radau @SomeBoyo I second this. Best bang for your buck on omicron backbone with a usenet.farm backup backbone. Take crypto payments too:

https://billing.frugalusenet.com/agreement/crypto

[–] Acid@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

I use Eweka/usenetprime and use Nzbplanet/NzbGeek these days.

[–] neko@fishfry.cheese.beer 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean provider (the guys you pay so you can access usenet at all) or indexer (the guys who organize the files so you can find anything)

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago
[–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I think my provider is newsgroup direct and my indexer is nzbgeek

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I first tried Usenet, I wanted something cheap so I could see if it was right for me. I haven't bothered to change since, so I use Frugal Usenet and Geek to index. Both work quite well for everything I've tried except ebooks.

[–] grimsolem@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

#bookz on undernet is great

[–] thisusernameistaken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

frugal usenet here as well but i have collected block accounts over the years that really never get used so they just sit there.

[–] nix@merv.news 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Block accounts are a preset amount of gigabytes that you buy and then you can use them up as you see fit without a rebill every month or year and then buy more when you want.

[–] vildis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been looking at eweka since mullvad removed port forwarding but i now have 1000/400 internet and like seeding so vpn recommendations are welcome (and indexers)

No VPN necessary. Eweka and Geek is a great combination.

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Fastusenet.org

Usenight

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Use night - it's by far the cheapest I've found (20 euro for a year). Gives you fast speeds at night and throttles during the day. Not an issue for me.

I don't know what the fuck use net is i just want to steal from people like new business insider owner or whatnot the channel name is

[–] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Usenetbucket

[–] Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I have a Block News account that I add to every now and then. I haven't used it in a couple years since the indexer I was using shut down. Haven't really looked for a new indexer though.

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

GigaNews for my procvider, NZBGeek and PlanetNZB for indexers.