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[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a twat. So what are the bets on how long it will be until they get proof that he has logged into his phone and this is all bollocks?

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

12 hours, 24 hours something like that?

Then he'll say in public something like 'this is utter and absolute poppy piffle' and in private he'll say sorry and think up what his next line of sorry not sorry bs is going to be. It's what he's always done.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

It is being held at a solicitors. He does not have access to it without. If he requests access, then it will be recorded.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Mex@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

Not that I agree with this law, but it should be applied to our ex PM who brought in similar laws

[–] wildeaboutoskar 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would that apply in this kind of thing? I.e it's not a criminal matter

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you mean as in government asking for your password and you telling them you can't give it up. OFC it applies. The problem is the impetus from government to enforce the law.

[–] wildeaboutoskar 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant as in it's an inquiry not a criminal case, so wasn't sure how much they could compel someone to release it. If the law is applicable though then yeah it's not a good look for the government not to be seen to enforce it.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

There does not need to be a criminal offence pending for a search warrant to be issued. There only needs to be evidence that a crime could have been committed. Select committees hold the same weight as a criminal court. There are some ancient laws that are reputed to give them sentencing powers. They now rely on courts to process any wrong doing. It is a similar to the authority of the crown. We know the king can do certain things, but he won't because of the shit storm it would cause afterwards.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair that's exactly what everyone should say when someone asks to look at your personal info!

[–] DJDarren 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but most people aren't the former Prime Minister. I can't read the article, because fuck paying any money to any of Murdoch's outlets, but is it his personal phone, or one that was provided in his official capacity as PM?

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't either so I'll have to speculate. I imagine it must be a personal phone, because a government-provided one should be accessible by their sysadmin so Johnson's password wouldn't be required. Despite his public act he's not an idiot, so his personal phone probably will be encrypted, but I imagine the default iPhone encryption won't be able to outlast the police's resources if they really want to get in.

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It'll almost certainly be his personal phone. A recurring issue with the tory government has been that they use their personal phones for government business.

[–] mackwinston@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

The thing is if it were you or I being investigated, we'd have the RIP Act thrown at us with the threat of a custodial sentence, no doubt, for not revealing the password.

[–] Delascas@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Mex@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

nice! thanks for this.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's definitely 00769.

I imagine "sorry I forgot my password" comes up a lot in police investigations, I imagine it wouldn't slow down the computer forensics team much.

[–] SNEWSLEYPIES@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Forget the forensics guys, if he keeps this up they'll be prepping the rubber hose and dentistry tools guys.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Perhaps we could skip the forensics?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phones are well encrypted, they need the password

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you can crack them with the right forensic tools, it just costs. I imagine of they tell BoJo they can unlock his phone but they'll charge him £50k to do it, he'll "find" his password tucked down the side of a mistress.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Only if the phone hasn't been powered off or "locked-down"

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That photo of Boris is great. No really a ladies' man... more like my Nan.

[–] Mex@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

isn't that a bit mean on your nan?

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His nan is Margaret Thatcher.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Blimey! I hope not. :)

[–] _xDEADBEEF@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

And as we all know, we can trust what he says

[–] 15liam20@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I will save everyone a lot of time, it's 69420

The phone can be imaged then brute-forced, I imagine that this is more distraction. I'm not sure how but then I didn't really understand the whole cardboard bus thing.

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