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I found I2P much better than Tor network, and now it supports BitTorrent protocol too https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent .
Why haven't the pirates migrated to I2P? Why are we still using clearnet and making people backout of seeding cause of DMCA?
The main reason is that libtorrent, which is the literal backbone of most torrenting clients, has implemented supported for I2P only recently in its latest v2.x branch.... It takes time for libtorrent to iron out bugs and stablize and it takes more for clients to upgrade their embedded libtorrent to v2.x.
libtorrent 2 also has some issues. On unRAID for instance it causes crashes so I am forced to use v1 builds. And on other systems it has high memory usage so it's not exactly ready for prime time.
I hate to put it this way because libtorrent is a wonderful piece of open-source software maintained by volunteers but as is typical with its history, releases are going to be bumpy.
Yeah my comment wasn't a knock at the software or devs. I just think libtorrent v2 is not quite ready for widespread use yet. Since OP is talking people migrating to I2P then it needs to be more stable before that can happen. A few years from now I'm sure it will be a great option.
Probably mostly cause:
What kind of speeds are you seeing per torrent and global with a few torrents running? I didn't try torrenting on I2p yet but even with my node on 24/7 even browsing was hella slow ( i was port forwarded too)
Why is it in Java??
3 billion devices run Java.
Hmm. What more can you tell me about these 3 billion devices? Are they in the room with us?
There is a more performant C++ implementation but it's been a long while since I've used either it or the java implementation. Worth checking out.
i've messed around with i2p, it requires much more technical knowledge than just torrenting and there's a bit of a learning curve to navigating and configuring it. plus it honestly hasn't changed much in years, and i'm not sure how much i trust the developers working on it. i do agree that it's better than tor though
Tor was really struggling and I wasn't looking forward to learning how to use something else safely. I2P was such a massively huge improvement at least for my use case.
Agreed. Even getting support over an issue (initially) was troublesome. But somehow I ended up solving it through other channels. But just like torrenting, or any other tech, once you get enough experience to solve issues on your own, things get a bit easy.
A tech being easy to grasp can be an issue too, leading to more script kitties messing in with the protocol.
Can you trust Tor or VPN? Tor was developed with the help of US intelligence to help build a anonymous network.
Read all of the source and research who hosts the relays to determine their trustworthiness. Decide for yourself
Likely because Usenet still works and so does xdcc via irc.
Can usenet be used without paying?
I had someone explain to me how it really isn't a privacy concern to use usenet but financially it does feel like a bit of a bamboozle but you have to realize that usenet often will max out your download speed which is pretty nice and it has some magic that prevents people from knowing what you're trying to access so it's likely worth the like $10/mo
If you look around you can get it for $3.50 a month (I have an account with News Demon that's unlimited for that price, which I don't remember exactly but I think I got it during a black friday sale)
Just remember that this is no longer Reddit and you're likely welcomed to post links to things for other Lemmy users to find.
Usenet can yes.. absolutely.. but likely only for the text groups.. for binary newsgroups you're going to have to pay and you'll need to do your research to find one that's (ideally) not a highwinds backed supplier as they automate DMCA takedowns.
Does Usenet work over college wi-fi? I'm not sure how that would work.
The last time I tried Usenet, 9/10 downloads were incomplete. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it wasn't worth it to me to pay for something like that.
Probably could use a good tutorial if it turns out it was my fault.
From what I have read on the upcoming implementation on i2p in qbit, I do not forsee it being adopted by the core torrent user base. The main issue I have with it is that while you can download from clearnet peers, you are only able to seed to other i2p peers. This completely eliminates any adoption by anyone using private trackers. Its not like the guys in brazil are going to jump through an extra hoop to hide their ip since they never needed to in the first place, so they can be ruled out for adoption as well. What I really fear is that its going to create a completely unnecessary schism in the userbase with a sort of 'leechnet' walled garden of i2p users which would hurt the greater availability of seeders. I also haven't gotten a straight answer from anyone how ports are going to work in i2p, since normally its imperative to have a forwarded port in order to be a full participant. Unless i2p users can seed to clearnet users without issue, I am going to be worried about the impact on torrent health as a whole.
This completely eliminates any adoption by anyone using private trackers
Doesn't it make the use of private trackers obsolete when no one can get sued anymore because they're all using an anonymous overlay network?
2 main issues with it:
Too slow for the average user. A lot less torrents available.
Because I'm not knowledgeable enough to make it work. I've managed to install it and figured out that I need to run the restartable version. Lots of text with screenshots or a video(s) would help. I'm not a digital native. This is one of many retirement projects. Listening to more music than I can afford to buy greatly improves the quality of my life.
It supported torrent for ages, but it has only one tracker that doesn't really have very much content. Now qBitTorrent or something else supports it out of the box.
I2P is very slow, slower than Tor. Maybe after more people join, it will be faster. Last time I tried it was painfully slow to even load most eepsites.
I would also say that this is because anonimity is not needed by all countries. I know that in Spain torrenting is not a big issue and ISPs don't care that much (even though distributed Copyrighted content is still not allowed). They usually go after people profiting from distributing copyrighted company rather than people downloading or distributing for free.
Disclaimer: I think some of my info is a bit outdated so if anyone has more recent info about Spain's situation please tell me.
Because clearnet serves most of us just fine.
No it doesn't, because that's how you get caught
I've been doing it for 20 years and have never been caught. I've never even heard of i2p until here just a couple of weeks ago. The fact that certain people are pushing it so hard and referring to standard methods in such a derogatory way makes me highly skeptical of trying it out.
Just because you haven't been caught doesn't mean https is suddenly a private way to pirate. It's really not that complicated.
And just because there is some new method available doesn't mean you're retaining your privacy there either. I have a VPN to hide my IP and as far as I'm concerned that's enough 'privacy' to avoid any issues.
What's the worst that'll happen, my ISP sends me a letter telling me to knock it off? You're acting like this is some sort of top secret black ops mission in need of complete secrecy.
unless if you're a thirdie or use a proxy or a good VPN
That's my point, that's significantly more effort then just implementing i2p. You shouldn't have to worry about that because we should be using better protocols. It's the protocol's fault here, and VPNs are band-aid solutions.
imo I'm pretty sure that using a VPN is much easier than setting i2p
It's literally a toggle in the BitTorrent client, which hopefully will eventually default on
You can also easily add a official extension to BiglyBT for I2P support and seed clearnet torrents you've downloaded already over I2P as well
BiglyBT handles all of the I2P router itself if you don't have a existing install, you can point it to an existing I2P install if you have one that's running 24/7 so is well integrated which is what I do
Can we make it *arr compatible?
The more people who use I2P for relatively normal reasons like piracy, the safer it is for people who want to avoid censorship.
Its reputation of Dread bezo addicts is probably why nobody uses it unfortunately
real answer? im way too stupid to figure out how the hell to use it. i spent 3 straight days trying to get it working a couple years ago with no luck.
I was in the same circumstances when I started. But then I asked around which helped me properly configure it.