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Absolutely great read from Bernard Hickey on Hipkins' wealth tax announcement and the treasury report released yesterday:

That’s it. It will now be almost impossible for a wealth or capital gains tax to be implemented within the next decade or two.

The future of Aotearoa’s political economy will now remain frozen in its stagnant, unequal, unjust, unproductive and unhealthy state for the forseeable future. That’s what our leaders, and ultimately the only voters that matter, have decided. Those hoping to change that frozen landscape should now look after themselves and their families, and/or hope and work for an electoral miracle that gives parties who want such taxes dominant positions in any post-election negotiation.

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[–] Ascyron@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Here's my voting struggle.

According to a political compass test I did last election, I'm most closely aligned to the policies of NZ first. I refuse to vote for them because they're headed by an immoral, racist, unethical, racing-industry-owned scumbag.

I'd vote greens except they're fighting hard to take the "most racist party" crown from Winnie.

I'd vote TOP except they don't exist outside the internet - none of my family or friends have ever heard seriously of their policies or what they stand for and it feels like a losing battle to get them to even 1%.

I'm not the right ethnicity to vote for te pati Maori, they don't want my vote.

And then labour completely lack the balls to actually make any form of change - they allegedly mean well but fuck it all up so badly it's worse than if nact were in power.

So I'm left with national and act as the least bad?

I want to see change but I'm so damn tired and worn out from trying to stay afloat that I can't be the change I want to see.

I wonder how many other median voters feel the way I do...?

[–] Xcf456@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Labour are not as bad as if National/act were in power. It's not even close. They're streets ahead on the employment space alone.

Greens are absolutely not the most racist party in Parliament, not with the Maori bashing National and act get up to. Their tax plan is also the best any party has to offer for everyone except those with more than net $4 million in assets (I.e. 99% of the population) and it would be real, positive change if implemented. It's worth supporting.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4000714/Meet-the-whanau-the-perils-of-dating-a-Harawira

Mr Harawira drew condemnation from Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres and Prime Minister John Key last week after saying in an interview that he "wouldn't feel comfortable" if any of his seven children came home with a Pakeha.

Definitely not the most racist, no.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago

Then vote TOP, at least you vote on principal....

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LOL. Calling the greens a racist party made you lose any credibility you might have had.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their co leader has made statements that are objectively racist, they haven't made her apologize or step down. They're a racist party.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their co leader has made statements that are objectively racist, they haven’t made her apologize or step down. They’re a racist party.

Which racist policies are they proposing?

Maybe you are the one that's racist. Ever consider that?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooh, sick burn. Ouch, my feelings.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

You sure are a sensitive fragile special snowflake aren't you?

[–] Ascyron@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, you're right. I'm a cis white male and therefore I'm the cause of all the world's violence plus my opinions aren't worth anything. Thank you for showing me the light!

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Your opinions are not worth anything but that has nothing to do with your white fragility.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, Seymour is one of the most reasonable people in Parliament right now, and I don't like it. Also one of the most consistently opposed to racial separatism, too.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea of taxing someone just for having something feels wrong to me. Tax income, certainly, but any sort of land value or wealth tax just feels wrong to me.

[–] Longpork_afficianado@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? The lack of access to those things(typically land and housing) costs the rest of us a lot of money in inflated prices, so why not tax those who have more than their share?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Because they're either earning money, if it's a productive asset, which you can tax, or they're enjoying what they bought with their taxed income.

It also just comes off as mean spirited, to be honest.

You're also not addressing the underlying issue, which is a lack of housing supply.

[–] EduardoDelgado@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone else willing to believe that they can't do a wealth tax due to some back room discussion with political donors who are all standing to lose if it goes through? Seems plausible no?

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