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60% of Lemmy-instances blocks Threads.net (lemmy.sambands.net)
submitted 11 months ago by registrert@lemmy.sambands.net to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
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Based on data from https://fedipact.veganism.social/ it seems that the majority of instances blocks threads.net. I'm sure there's Lemmy instances with either approach that have slipped through the cracks as the list is a work in progress.

The percentage of users doesn't correlate to instances as the biggest instance on the Lemmyverse has roughly 3x the users of the second largest, a NSFW instance, 4x the users of the biggest "niché" instance and 5x the users of what I see as the second largest general purpose instance.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Someone posted this in another thread and the stats are genuinely misleading here. All the super large instances are federating with Meta, with like 90% of the users.

[–] registrert@lemmy.sambands.net 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd be happy to update it with more correct information if you can find more accurate numbers.

From https://fedipact.veganism.social/ the largest instances in order of active users are:

  1. Lemmy.world - Federates
  2. LemmyNSFW.com - Blocks
  3. Lemmy-ml - Blocks
  4. Lemm.ee - Blocks
  5. programming.dev - Federates.
[–] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

They are probably mean including mastodon, which is larger and generally federates with threads

[–] BioDriver 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

OOTL - why is everyone blocking threads.net?

[–] registrert@lemmy.sambands.net 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's owned by Meta, the company that runs Facebook. If you're still unsure about the situation perhaps this can help out: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 26 points 11 months ago

And the crux of the matter:

Less emotionally, I think it’s unwise to assume that an organization that has…

  • demonstrably and continuously made antisocial and sometimes deadly choices on behalf of billions of human beings and
  • allowed its products to be weaponized by covert state-level operations behind multiple genocides and hundreds (thousands? tens of thousands?) of smaller persecutions, all while
  • ducking meaningful oversight,
  • lying about what they do and know, and
  • treating their core extraction machines as fait-accompli inevitabilities that mustn’t be governed except in patently ineffective ways…

…will be a good citizen after adopting a new, interoperable technical structure.

[–] pistachio@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is the way i see the situation:

Letting meta join the fediverse means they will captivate the general audience and the fediverse will stop growing. Realizing this, it could lead a lot of contributors to the lemmy/mastodon/activitypub projects lose interest, which will slow down development and could eventually lead to the death of the fediverse project.

This is how it goes:

People get accustomed to all the content from Meta/Threads

Meta adds extra features to their website which do not work with other fediverse instances

People switch from lemmy/mastodon to threads or join threads directly and never ever consider joining the real fediverse.

The fediverse project either dies down or remains a niche project forever.

[–] garrett@infosec.pub 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

With how bad Lemmy federates across other platforms, even those still federating won’t be seen on Threads lol

[–] BiggestBulb@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is kbin.social still going to federate?

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope so. Preemptive defederation is a stupid idea.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

First as tragedy, then as ~~farce~~ kbin.social

[–] Amelia@transfem.space 2 points 11 months ago

And mine is one of them