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[–] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's really not true.

The vast, VAST majority of Deck owners will never install another OS on it, and the number of people who will go through the trials and tribulations of turning it into a dedicated Windows PC is practically negligible. It's the same problem that Linux has on desktop, but now the script is flipped.

On top of that, I follow a number of mainstream gaming forums and podcasts, and I'm constantly shocked by the amount of Linux ecosystem talk I've been hearing since the launch of the deck. All the sudden we have non-computer/linux geeks talking about things like Arch, KDE plasma, flatpak, systemd, etc. Sure, they aren't like experts or power users or anything, but most of them were never Windows experts either, nor should they need to be.

Finally, when you look at a lot of the failures of the disaster that is the Asus ROG Ally, I think it's pretty clear that using Windows on a device like this is neither ideal, nor is it actually a big driver of sales. (From what I can tell, the Deck has greatly outsold the Ally, hardware problems aside.)

[–] Itty53@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I really do hope that dev jam project to create a streaming "gaming installation" of Windows takes off and gets picked up by Microsoft. There is very clearly a market for it.

That being said I also think the number of games not supported is really really low and that makes it kind of a non issue. Still, with Microsoft and their ever increasing interest in the gaming division, I don't feel too unsafe having high hopes. It just feels like something they could pull off easily enough, why wouldn't they? One more vector for a license sale.

[–] bwhough@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds reasonable to me. Steam Deck is an open platform, and Windows is officially supported by the vendor with a driver kit. Why not?

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it pretty easy to get windows on a steam deck? I'm familiar with Linux so I haven't looked into it but I thought you could just boot it from an SD card.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is relatively easy, and I've done it from an SD card too. But it does kinda suck and its even easier to just leave SteamOS (edit: leave SteamOS in place instead of replacing it with Windows). Windows runs terribly slow from the SD card and just generally is not optimized for the form factor.

You can use Steam Big Picture mode to make most games work, untill you want to do anything outside Steam. Then it became a mess of installing compatibility programs, drivers, UWP hooks for Game Pass games, etc... It was a generally unpleasant experience.

[–] NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, because Linux is a genuinely unpleasant OS to use for anything but ridiculously limited tasks. Windows is preferable in almost all cases.

[–] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux is for industrial/professional work. Windows is for consumers.

Ironically it's always industry folks who think consumers are idiots for using windows and not 'learning' Linux/Unix.

[–] bradboimler@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I feel that setting up and administering Linux is still out of reach for most people. But for day to day use? Considering most of that is web browsing? It's totally there.

I'm actually kinda astonished at how polished the GNOME desktop environment is

[–] Alexmitter@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what did you write this on, a Android device or a iOS/OSX device?

[–] NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, yes it's Android Linux, since my Windows Phone device stopped working, I have been all but forced into using a linux device if I want to make phone calls. I've debated on going back to a "feature phone" to avoid it, but those are all Java based, so that's almost worse on its own. And since the easiest tablet to watch YouTube videos on is BSD iOS, I have one of them too. If the Surface was more suited to that purpose, I would switch immediately.

My primary daily computers are both Windows as a main OS. One of them multi-boots Windows 7 32-bit, DR-DOS 7, and ReactOS. On the other, it's Win10x64, but I usually jump straight into DOSBox-X or my Windows Me VM/emulator if I'm not doing anything important and modern.

[–] Alexmitter@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sir, you are a living meme.