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[โ€“] Thorry84@feddit.nl 131 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These kinds of charts are a bit dangerous, as it will be used by anti-EU folk in net contributing countries to say look at how much money we can save when we leave the EU. But this looks only at money being shipped back and forth. The EU has so much benefits in terms of trade and collaboration, it's a steal at any price.

[โ€“] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Exactly. Germany makes way more than 25 billion Euro by being able to freely trade with neighbours.

[โ€“] CJOtheReal@ani.social 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When you look closely, the most undemocratic of them are also taking the most money...

[โ€“] zaphod@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The only truly undemocratic country on that list is Hungary.

[โ€“] CJOtheReal@ani.social 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] zaphod@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We'll see, they just got a new governemnt, I hope the best for them.

[โ€“] CJOtheReal@ani.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hoping for the best and preparing for the wost is the way of life.

As of now they are undemocratic as hell.

[โ€“] magikmw@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

New PM is pro eu and the coalition is democratic. A lot of the judiciary corruption that happened is going to get reversed fast.

Day to day it's not really undemocratic, it was mostly about popular issues to solidify right wing outrage.

Still, I'm glad it's over.

[โ€“] NattyNatty2x4 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We're there elections in Poland recently? What were the results?

[โ€“] magikmw@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right "won" but progressives have a majority coalition that just elected a PM. We should be ok.

It's not all in leftism, but they are in the government, first time since before WW2.

In previous elections "left" was just previous regime surviviors.

[โ€“] NattyNatty2x4 1 points 11 months ago

Ah good to hear, hopefully they can effect some level of change with the numbers they've got

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[โ€“] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Meanwhile France is doing a police state and Italy elected fascists...

[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would be nice to have the same data per capita.

[โ€“] tal@lemmy.today 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

statistia-netcontrib.csv

country,netcontrib
DE,25572
FR,12380
NL,6929
IT,3337
SE,2826
DK,1766
AT,1540
FI,1109
IE,703
MT,-14
CY,-172
SI,-386
EE,-729
LT,-860
SK,-1398
LV,-1544
BG,-1727
HR,-1746
ES,-1946
LU,-2020
CZ,-2853
BE,-2950
PT,-3132
RO,-4096
HU,-4206
GR,-4278
PL,-11910

eu-contribution-per-capita.r

if (!require("pacman")) install.packages("pacman")
pacman::p_load(
            countrycode,
            dplyr,
            ggdark,
            ggplot2,
            r2country
        )

abs <- read.csv("statista-netcontrib.csv",header = TRUE)
abs2 <- cbind(abs,name = countrycode(abs$country,"iso2c","country.name")) 

df <- inner_join(country_names, abs2)
df2 <- inner_join(country_population, df)
df2$percap <- df2$netcontrib/df2$population2023*1000000

df3 <- arrange(df2,percap)

ggplot(df3, aes(x = percap, y = reorder(name, percap))) +
    geom_bar(stat = "identity") +
    dark_theme_gray() +
    ylab("Country") +
    xlab("Euros per capita") +
    scale_x_continuous(breaks = scales::pretty_breaks(n = 20)) +
    geom_text(aes(label = percap))

ggsave("euros-percap.png")

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Sorry about the broken escaping of the angle brackets (โ€œ<โ€ is โ€œ&lt;โ€) in the source; Lemmy is, regrettably, broken on that at the moment.

EDIT: Fixed Latvia country code error.

EDIT2: And Austria country code error.

[โ€“] interolivary 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

statistia-netcontrib.csv is using some weird country code that isn't ISO 3166-2, because it's got what I assume to be Latvia with the code LA which is actually Laos, and that's reflected on your chart too โ€“ I was initially a bit puzzled as to why Laos was listed as being in the EU. At a quick glance it seems to be the only weird one though

[โ€“] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's just me not knowing my country codes. Over here, "LA" is generally Los Angeles. I'll fix it; thanks.

EDIT: Also, Austria appears to be "AT" rather than "AU". One more fix.

[โ€“] interolivary 2 points 11 months ago

Ah I thought you pulled that from some Eurostat database and they were using wonky country codes. The AU / AT mixup is a classic one, and since the spelling of Austria and Australia is so close it's easy to miss that mistake โ€“ just like I did

[โ€“] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also, a Markdown table rendition:

eu-contribution-per-capita-markdown.r

if (!require("pacman")) install.packages("pacman")
pacman::p_load(
            countrycode,
            dplyr,
            r2country,
            simplermarkdown
        )

abs &lt;- read.csv("statista-netcontrib.csv",header = TRUE)
abs2 &lt;- cbind(abs,name = countrycode(abs$country,"iso2c","country.name")) 

df &lt;- inner_join(country_names, abs2)
df2 &lt;- inner_join(country_population, df)
df2$percap &lt;- df2$netcontrib/df2$population2023*1000000

df3 &lt;- arrange(df2,-percap)

md_table(df3)

name percap
Netherlands 386.91124
Germany 302.86855
Denmark 297.09908
Sweden 267.98643
Finland 199.90810
France 181.71677
Austria 168.68113
Ireland 136.52768
Italy 56.76638
Malta -26.94577
Spain -40.25217
Slovenia -182.27546
Cyprus -187.34343
Romania -214.99549
Belgium -250.73894
Slovakia -257.60767
Bulgaria -267.84703
Portugal -299.21568
Lithuania -300.05251
Poland -315.86485
Greece -408.10926
Hungary -438.25808
Croatia -449.01298
Estonia -533.72029
Latvia -819.79399
Luxembourg -3056.85909
[โ€“] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] KilroyIsHere 1 points 11 months ago

Because the presence of the EU institutions this brings a lot of money in the economy

[โ€“] snaptastic 5 points 11 months ago

Would be interesting to see this info per capita.