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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 months ago (22 children)

Apple will now require a court order or search warrant to give push notification data to law enforcement in a shift from the previous practice of accepting a subpoena to hand over data.

A subpeana is a court order so that’s clear as mud.

[–] gomp@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago
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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean they can't exactly ignore the law, can they?

I'm not sure how newsworthy this whole topic is, but apparently it sets some people off, so it generates clicks if nothing else.

[–] gomp@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

I’m not sure how newsworthy this whole topic is

It's right there in the first paragraph:

Apple will now require [...] in a shift from the previous practice of accepting a subpoena to hand over data.

[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 4 points 11 months ago

There is barely any rule of law left in the West.

Also, the type of law you are talking about ≠ morality or justice. That ship sailed long ago.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is where you clearly see Apple is all about privacy posturing and not much about actual privacy.

If they really cared about their customers' privacy, they would require notification servers registered with APN to push notifications encrypted with a key that only the recipient apps have the private key to. This would be true end-to-end encryption, and Apple would only relay encrypted notifications across, enabling them to deny all subpoenas and any kind of snooping requests from law enforcement on the simple basis that they plain can't even decode the notifications in the first place.

The very fact that they do have access to the notifications in clear-text is undeniable evidence that they actively want and do collaborate with law enforcement.

Meaning Apple's stance on privacy is utter BS - something anybody with a modicum of critical thinking suspected from the start, but now the evidence is crystal-clear.

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Wooow, and what compensation do all the people get that where harmed by this?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The change comes about a week after Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) wrote to Attorney General Merrick Garland, warning his office received a tip last year that foreign governments were requested Apple and Google for their records of smartphone notifications.

Push notifications are used by a variety of Apple applications and third-party apps to alert users.

As Wyden explained in his letter, push notifications are not sent by individual apps but rather through the smartphone’s operating provider.

Google already required a court order for law enforcement to get push notification-related data.

In a statement to The Hill, Wyden applauded Apple’s move to match Google’s policy.

“This is how oversight is supposed to work,” Wyden said, adding later, “Apple is doing the right thing by matching Google and requiring a court order to hand over push notification related data.”


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[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

Fuck Apple.