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A federal judge had rejected former President Donald Trump's claim of immunity from prosecution in the election interference case.

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[–] whatthecaptcha@lemmy.one 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's absurd to me that he has yet to actually go to jail for literally any of the crimes he's committed. Dude incited a mob, kept top secret documents and invited Saudi Arabia to his golf course where they were kept, and generally commits treason any chance he gets yet somehow is allowed to run for fucking president again and isn't in prison or executed.

This country has no spine.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago

"The gears of justice grind slowly but finely."

He's attempting to outrun those gears by stalling with lengthy appeals and getting back to the presidency before they catch him. The appeals process ostensibly exists (in theory) to prevent cavalier judges and vigilantism; at the same time, Trump is a career veteran of stalling the courts, and the rich have the luxury of being able to afford doing so.

I agree that he's an obvious criminal and has gotten the lightest treatment possible so far, but it's also worth recognizing that he's functionally a mob boss with tens of millions of followers, all with a tenuous grasp of reality and an undying love for their demigod.

Even if the judges aren't afraid (and some assuredly are), they have to perform this delicate balancing act so his followers don't cause a mistrial through their sheer stupidity.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This country has no spine.

Yet you don't want to just lock up any old person without all the proof and due process in the world. That's what's going on here--he has that right, just the same as you. The difference is that he has a lot of money, which can allow him to grad this out longer than the average person can get away with. He won't get away from it forever--even Jeffery Epstein went down.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON — Special counsel Jack Smith on Monday asked the Supreme Court to immediately step in to decide whether former President Donald Trump has immunity from prosecution for his actions seeking to overturn the 2020 election.

"This case presents a fundamental question at the heart of our democracy: whether a former President is absolutely immune from federal prosecution for crimes committed while in office," Smith wrote in the court filing.

More recently, the court has on several occasions taken up cases at an early stage of litigation to decide issues of national importance, such as the Biden administration's vaccine mandate for businesses and its plan to forgive student loan debt.

But since he left office in January 2021, the court has not been receptive to filings brought by the former president, including over his separate legal fight concerning presidential documents he stored at his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida.

Trump’s lawyers argue that his role in questioning the result of the election was within the “outer perimeter” of his official responsibilities as president, a phrase that appears in a 1982 Supreme Court ruling, also involving Nixon, about presidential immunity.

Trump was indicted after a sprawling investigation that included testimony from dozens of White House aides and advisors ranging in seniority up to former Vice President Mike Pence.


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