Remember, if Fascism wins it is YOUR FAULT. : memes

[–] taanegl 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Biden sucks... but vote for him. I mean the two party system sucks, first passed the post sucks, gerrymandering sucks... but the republican party sucks even more. I'd rather have a dottering old liberal than an outright fascist, and at the same time the system won't be reformed because of an election cycle. People need to organise, get off their lazy butts. But since you ain't doing that, there's only one thing to do.

Vote Biden. Don't be dumb. It's like the only sane alternative, no matter how insane that sounds.

[–] Juno 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

You know, when Biden took office the capitol building had literally just been attacked by a violent mob who smeared shit on the walls. And we were still in covid-lockdowns, and gas was $4 a gallon, and Ukraine had just started getting attacked.

Idk why Biden gets so much shit, but given where he started, I think we are doing a damn fine job and our inflation numbers are much better than most of the rest of the world.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 7 points 9 months ago

If inflation is our metric, then Democrats have been in agreement with Republicans ever since the Nixon Shock.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that's any comfort to the Palestinians Biden is helping to genocide?

[–] taanegl 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's that? Somebody thinks that a different president is going to stop the drones and bombings!? Like they're not tied up in deals?! Like if a third party candidate won the process would just magically stop?!?!

Bush made the bombs drop, Obama made the bombs drop, Trump made the bombs drop, Biden made the bombs drop... wtf do you think the next president will do? The CIA tells them what's what and that's it.

Vote Biden, or get a republican president. Your call.

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This meme is about you.

[–] taanegl 4 points 9 months ago

I know. This was clapback to all those who think the notion of voting third party does anything else but taking away votes from the democrats. It's naive, it's dumb, it's quite frankly ignorant. Change in power dynamics happens from the ground up, not the top down.

Just calling a spade a spade.

[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's a weird-ass AI prompt. But if fascism wins and you voted third party, yes - it's partly* your fault unless you're too stupid to understand how first past the post voting works.

*conditionals against massive fascist party majority states notwithstanding.

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Keep typing. You're making my point for me.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Citizens of the US are really screwed, with a pseudo-democracy where they can only choose between conservatives or fascists, apart from practically half of the population who show that Descartes was wrong, because they exist but they don't think.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 12 points 9 months ago

The US has never been a country that's good or fair. It's only very slowly gotten a little better through the sweat and blood of good people.

If we want it to get better it's going to be a lot of difficult and painstaking work.

[–] interolivary 11 points 9 months ago

show that Descartes was wrong, because they exist but they don’t think.

"A therefore B" doesn't imply "B therefore A"

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

Counterargument: If the democrats don't want to lose they should stop funding mass genocide.

[–] TwistedTurtle@monero.town 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair the GOP would happily fund it too

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 months ago

Hey, only if it doesn’t conflict with Putin’s goals.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How can anyone think that Trump wouldn't support it. If anything, he would call the IDF a bunch of pussies for not bombing Gaza even harder.

[–] bobthened@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

That's not the point. People aren't saying that they'd rather have Trump in charge. The point is things will never get better if everyone keeps unquestioningly giving their votes to the Democrats regardless of how little the democrats represent their interests. The only real way most people have of making a political party change is by withholding their votes until that party changes in order to regain the votes.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

...Memes?

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago

Propaganda is a form of meme.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

two things to consider

voting harder wont actually stop fascism, the nazis took power with 30% of the vote
not everyone gets a vote, myself included (not a citizen)

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[–] marxistsynths19@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why would we continue doing the exact same thing that has been time and time again proven to be a cheap bandaid that never addresses the issues? Fuck that. We have to try different ways of making progress in this country or we’re fucked. We’re not really a democratic country anyway. None of our representatives actually fight and do what we ask of them. So why fall for it again?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bbbut we just need to buy time for [insert other thing that hasn't been working]!

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is so good, did you make it?

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used Dall-E to generate the individual elements and put them together in Paint.NET. AI couldn't understand the prompts I was using well enough to generate what I wanted.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 9 months ago

Lol cool. It reminds me of 2016 when I checked the Republican party website and on the Donate page the background was a picture of Trump. Then I checked the Democratic party website and on the Donate page the background was a picture of Trump but with a scary red hue.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So, here's a thought.

Instead of complaining, get active at a local level. Start doing shit, instead of complaining that other people should do shit. Be a local activist. Run for office. Work in person to persuade people. Get backing. Shake hands, kiss babies, meet people. And then? Vote for the best choices that you have.

If you want shit to change, you can't complain on-line, you have to get off your ass and do something.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tried that, all I got for my trouble was a total disillusionment with the American voting public.

Americans, generally, do not care, and I can't convince them that they should.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can. But you need to engage them one on one, and you need to find out what's important to them, what frustrates them, and why. And then build on that. It takes empathy, and not faked empathy. It's not a short conversation, like asking someone to donate to Greenpeace on a sidewalk in Brooklyn. It's deep canvassing.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on."

One-on-one might be effective, but it can't scale. There's no hope for the most heavily propagandized country on Earth that doesn't start with an end to the incentive to lie for profit, I.E. Capitalism.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So, what EXACTLY do you think is my purpose in creating propaganda like this post?

And why do you assume I am not doing more?

Is it projection?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I assume that you aren't doing more because almost all of the people bitching about the Dems only aligning with 95% of their views and therefore don't vote for the Dems because they're just as bad are accelerationists; they just want to make the system function even less well than it already does so that the whole things crashes and burns. Or, worse, in the case of someone like Jill Stein, are actively working against the interests of the country. Best case scenario? They're speaking to an in-group to harden people in a position so that they're less likely to engage with political opponents.

If you really, truly want things to change, you gotta do that shit on a 1:1 basis, in person. If you're serious about changing people and fixing shit, I'd suggest looking at techniques of street epistemology and reading David McRaney's "How Minds Change".

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should stop arguing with your fantasies and projecting your frustrations so you can engage with people who are actually doing the work.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do. Do you? Or do you think that 'spreading propaganda' is 'work'?

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's one of the things I do. You don't know anything else about me, but you seem to think you do. All I know about you is that you can turn any subject into a conversation about yourself.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That image is more telling than you intended it to be.

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 13 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Maybe you're misreading my intention. The image is supposed to convey that the Democrats use Republicans as a threat so they can stay in power, and the frayed rope represents them losing control. What did you think I was trying to say?

[–] CylustheVirus 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh we understand. It just means you're not worth talking to.

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[–] kpw@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes, the Republican party is controlled by the Democrats so they can use them as a threat. Makes perfect sense now, there's no other explanation.

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

The Democrats and Republicans work together to make sure you don't have any meaningful choice. The Republicans don't know that they're being controlled because they have only the politics of hatred and destruction. Democrats keep them around for the appearance of civility.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (16 children)

That's what I thought you meant, the image implies they're the same thing wearing different masks. The elephant is the weapon, the donkey is the one using it. In other words, a one party system pretending to be two.

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[–] Titan 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Neo-liberal fascism or conservative fascism? 🤔

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago

They're two faces of the same demon.

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