Ya know. The fact that active users was going down made me feel like part of the 1% of stubborn assholes but ever since RiF went dark the only time I've been on reddit is when a Google search took me there because fuck spez. I'm in it for the long haul. I won't be going back. And ya know what? Fuck Google too. I've migrated to Firefox and DuckDuckGo since then too. Idk maybe it's just cause I am stubborn but I refuse to be a hypocrite.
this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2023
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I've installed Libreddit to redirect any Google searches that lead me to Reddit. They're not getting my visit!
I hope you're donating to the respective libreddit instance hoster, because unlike Reddit, they're not a multibillion corporation with a steady ad income to pay for their traffic
If you're not, then I suggest you use old.reddit.com with uBlock Origin
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I assumed active users was going down partly because some of us created multiple accounts on different instances in the beginning to get a feel for it all, then ended up just using one
Really has felt like the thrediverse has been quite active lately. During the exodus we had a lot of posting about... the exodus. But now we have a lot of posting about actual topics and what feels like a pretty healthy community building save for a few instances that will probably get defederated before too long.
Same I find the engagement is raising. The threads here are more sincere. Sure it's not as active when it comes to some things but that's fine IMHO. Building an online community right takes time.
I also feel that people here are much nicer, and willing to engage with content. Even tiny communities usually make pretty great posts.
I greatly appreciate the lack of reddit meta getting repeated adnauseum. 69 and 420 references really stop being funny when repeated in so many threads.
Here's a comment for even more activity!
Had to comment too, we all have to do our part
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Since this coincides with when I made my new account I will choose to believe it is solely thanks to me.
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Because that Picard maneuver guy carries the Lemmy network with a ton of spicy memes. A true real one
<3
We need your buddy, the Riker maneuver.
I actually named my Mastodon account that.
I like that my profile (on mobile at least) looks like he's Riker maneuvering a Riker maneuver:
We appreciate the content bro
Thanks! Just trying to do my part to help the fediverse take off.
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that guy is a legend and also confuses me every time I see him outside of a star trek community
Him and Stamets
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I used to look to Reddit when big news broke because it was always on the front page within minutes. This past year there have been a few times that big news stories weren't even on the top few pages. I gave Lemmy a try, and it feels just like reddit from 2013. I love it. I'm home.
I still go to Reddit for American politics, my cities sub, and /r/nfl.
But I haven't made a single comment and treat it more as a news aggregator than a proper community. And even that is happening less and less as I get more comfortable with the pacing of the community here.
On Reddit you can make a clever comment at the right time and get thousands of upvotes and sidebar conversations. It's great for a shot of that sweet, sweet dopamine.
On Lemmy, I rarely get more than 5-10 upvotes, but the conversations are meaningful and nuanced.
People are realizing that Lemmy is not a 1:1 drop-in replacement and are adjusting their expectations and behavior accordingly. Hopefully we'll hit a critical mass soon.
I never experienced reddit 2013 but reddit's front page is gone. They've swapped out r/all for r/popular on new reddit, videos and screenshots are everywhere instead of links and they've even renamed themselves to "the heart of the internet"
This place shall not die. Keep the party going guys.
Upwards and onwards!
Related to the recent reddit mobile site update that straight up breaks the website perhaps? (Cant scroll, can’t interact)
Don't these people test their shit before release? Hobby devs have better qc than reddit
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I'm glad to see this. I was mostly a lurker at the old place for over 10 years.
Creating posts and commenting at times was difficult and often they were deleted due to some rule or issue. The worst was when users would message to let me know the post had been deleted and they knew due to some other form of the site they were using.
In all my years of managing Forums before this period it wasn't that hard to create new topics and participate so I gave up.
I started lurking here at Lemmy then starting seeing this theme about user engagement going down and not enough content. When I would end up back at the old place after a Google search on something I could see the volume number differences between lemmy and there so I decided to try posting again.
So far it's been a lot easier especially in sh1tposting. I did run into a couple of hiccups but overall it's been a lot easier.
I'll enjoy it while it lasts as over time with more users things will change, at least for now the posts are not drowning in comments by the thousands yet. I can keep up with that. It kind of reminds me of my old forum days in the early 2000s.
Had to use the reddit app the other day.. That people can stand to be on there still is beyond me. I like it here on the fediverse and im not going back
unfortunately other data is not encouraging , the number of servers is both down since the exodus and in the recent month.
I think the number of servers is a interesting metric to look on, it correlates with users who are tech savy and are early adopters, before the exodus the number of servers was growing consistently , despite the number of users mostly staying the same, That was IMO an indication of the relative quality of lemmy at the time and indeed it seemed to got the most benefits from the exodus out of all the reddit alternatives.
compare that with peertube which shows consistent growth in the number of servers (see this month, and long term), I think what makes them better then lemmy currently is that they currently seem better at prioritizing feature development by using a dedicated site.
Also the total donations have declined in the last month (from €3962 to €3,771 today), So i think we should try to not get overconfident and work to secure the future of lemmy or some other open source reddit alternative.
Before the Reddit exodus, I don't remember many active servers besides Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad (there was Lemm.ee and Lemmy.ca but they both had like 3 posts a week). Hexbear wasn't federated, and servers were mostly being desperately spun up in anticipation for a flood of users who would crash the network.
The donations being down is bad though. I would love for at least Lemmy.ml to sticky a post asking for funding; one has to look no further than Thunderbird to see how well that works.
Before the Reddit exodus, I don’t remember many active servers besides Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad (there was Lemm.ee and Lemmy.ca but they both had like 3 posts a week). Hexbear wasn’t federated, and servers were mostly being desperately spun up in anticipation for a flood of users who would crash the network.
There were about 80 before the exodus (may 2023), compared to to 40 (may 2022) and 15 (may 2021), about double the servers every year which is good considering this is "word to mouth" growth, even older data shows a clear growth trend, my guess is that i and others didn't really see them because they are some dude community, even today i think i will have a problem listing more then 5-10 lemmy servers.
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Good, we need an alternative to Reddit that isn't manipulated
Give it time and there will be bad actors trying to manipulate Lemmy.
It does kind of have a problem with mod abuse but that's on a per-community or instance basis, so it's nowhere near as bad.
That's good. A lot of communities have been slowly dying 🫤 I've been using Mastodon more and more but it's not the same.
One issue with Reddit was the extreme even obsesive moderation level. It was totally frustrating to post stuff in some subs, lot of new people just avoid it even experienced users like me.
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How do they handle bots? Seems to me this statistic could be heavily inflated. Or do they account for that?
Here is their listing of users per instance, looks a bit sus to me ("Benutzer" means "Users"):
It's active users, not total users. I'm not sure on the exact metric, but users need to post, comment, vote or whatever to be counted for this statistic.
Bots on alien.top do that afaik. They impersonate real Reddit users after all.
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It could be about programming.dev and lemmynsfw.com stat changes: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4235
TL;DR: By default, Lemmy only counts posts and comments for active users. These instances also started counting the votes. According to Lemmy NSFW admin, there are 3 times more active users with lurkers.
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It's winter break for me so that's why I'm going to use it a bit more.
oh lawd they comin
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