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Imagine an AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) that could perform any task a human can do on a computer, but at a much faster pace. This AGI could create an operating system, produce a movie better than anything you've ever seen, and much more, all while being limited to SFW (Safe For Work) content. What are the first things you would ask it to do?

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[โ€“] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell it to figure out zero point energy or whatever else scifi type free energy is possible. Then tell it to figure out the cheapest easiest way to implement the technology. Then have it disseminate those plans world wide to everyone.

[โ€“] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This sounds like science fiction. Even if the AGI were capable of creating plans for a fusion reactor, for example, you would still need to execute those plans. So, what's the point of everyone having access to the plans if the same electrical companies will likely be responsible for constructing the reactor?

[โ€“] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

If everyone has the plans for a super efficient easy(ish) to build free energy device, then its existence couldn't be covered up and the big energy companies and governments around the world would be forced to implement those plans or face civil unrest or revolt.

[โ€“] quotheraven404@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd want a familiar/daemon that was running an AI personality to act as a personal assistant, friend and interactive information source. It could replace therapy and be a personalized tutor, and it would always be up to date on the newest science and global happenings.

[โ€“] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly think that with an interesting personality, most people would drastically reduce their Internet usage in favor of interacting with the AGI. It would be cool if you could set the percentage of humor and other traits, similar to the way it's done with TAR in the movie Interstellar.

[โ€“] quotheraven404@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly! I think mental health issues would be reduced drastically if everyone had a devoted friend for support at all times.

Things like misinformation and radicalization would go down too, if the AI always had global context for everything.

[โ€“] SirGolan@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's possible now. I've been working on such a thing for a bit now and it can generally do all that, though I wouldn't advise it to be used for therapy (or medical advice), but mostly for legal reasons rather than ability. When you create a new agent, you can tell it what type of personality you want. It doesn't just respond to commands but also figures out what needs to be done and does it independently.

[โ€“] quotheraven404@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I haven't played with it much but it feels like ChatGPT is already getting pretty close to this kind of functionality. It makes me wonder what's missing to take it to the next level over something like Siri or Alexa. Maybe it needs to be more proactive than just waiting for prompts?

I'd be interested to know if current AI would be able to recognize the symptoms of different mental health issues and utilize the known strategies to deal with them. Like if a user shows signs of anxiety or depression, could the AI use CBT tools to conversationally challenge those thought processes without it really feeling like therapy? I guess just like self-driving cars this kind of thing would be legally murky if it went awry and it accidentally ended up convincing someone to commit suicide or something haha.

[โ€“] SirGolan@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That last bit already happened. An AI (allegedly) told a guy to commit suicide and he did. A big part of the problem is while GPT4 for instance knows all about all the things you just said and can probably do what you're suggesting, nobody can guarantee it won't get something horribly wrong at some point. Sort of like how self driving cars can handle like 95% of things correctly but that 5% of unexpected stuff that maybe takes some extra context that a human has and the car was never trained on is very hard to get past.

[โ€“] quotheraven404@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the link, that sounds like exactly what I was asking for but gone way wrong!

What do you think is missing to prevent these kinds of outcomes? Is AI simply incapable of categorizing topics as 'harmful to humans' on it's own without a human's explicit guidance? It seems like the philosophical nuances of things like consent or dependence or death would be difficult for a machine to learn if it isn't itself sensitive to them. How do you train empathy in something so inherently unlike us?

[โ€“] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Mass Effect 3 with Mass Effect 1's art and music style. And with a better ending

[โ€“] elevenant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a lot of things that are proposed here could not be done by an AGI on an computer, no matter how intelligent. Consider this alternative scenario: You have an exceptionally intelligent young human adult with a computer locked in a room. They have no specialized education or anything. They are just extremely intelligent. What could you achieve through such a person?

Discovery of new physics is out of the question. That would need experiments.

[โ€“] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Locked in a room with an internet connection? A lot. But without any contact with the outside world? Not nearly as much. It could have other people running experiments for it with an internet connection, but not without one.

Anyway, whether or not the AGI can interact with the real world undermines the purpose of my explicit statement in the question. I specifically mentioned that it only operates as a human on a computer. I didn't mention it could acquire a physical body, so let's just assume it can't and can't use other people to do physical labor either.

[โ€“] ablackcatstail@lemmy.goblackcat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Truth be told I don't know what I would. That much said, I don't foresee AI replacing us right away. It's got quite a ways to go before that happens. But when it does, I expect there to be a massive disruption in society because joblessness and homelessness is going to skyrocket because there just is no assistance in a hypercapitalist world.

[โ€“] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if corporations just asked the AI to make as much money as possible at the expense of everything else. But people like living in capitalist countries anyways, while complaining about the lack of safety nets. Otherwise they would move to countries like China, North Korea or Cuba.

Yeah, that's kind of reductive.

[โ€“] APassenger@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I'd have to use it to protect it from all the other private owners of weaponized, advantage-seeking AGI owners.

They will exist.

[โ€“] argv_minus_one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If that exists, it's curtains for humanity. Not because of the AGI itself killing us all, necessarily, but because that means human labor is forever obsolete and the vast majority of humans, including me, will soon starve to death on the street or be imprisoned for vagrancy.

So, I wouldn't ask it anything, except maybe to recommend a suicide method.

[โ€“] InternetPirate@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully there are some people more positive than that, willing to change society so AGI doesn't make most humans starve to death or be imprisoned.

[โ€“] argv_minus_one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look around you. Look at all the uprisings that haven't happened as a result of the latest round of extreme price gouging and resulting public impoverishment. Look at all the homeless people everywhere, sitting quietly in their tents and dying of starvation, instead of standing up and marching and demanding the employment and housing opportunities that they've thus far been denied.

No, society will not change to coexist harmoniously with AGI. The events of the last few years have made this abundantly clear. The whole point of creating AGI is to replace human labor and dispose of the vast majority of humans, and those humans are going to let it happen.

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