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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Interstellar_1@pawb.social to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 
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[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 80 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! The students are learning things! We must put a stop to this immediately!

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 39 points 11 months ago (7 children)

All those supposed "popups" you can disable. "Bloatware" you can uninstall and are added by the laptop manufacturer not Microsoft, and "advertisements" only happen once on a fresh install.

Almost like those supposedly tech savvy people don't know what a setting is.

It is fine if you prefer Linux over Windows, but don't go about just straight up lying about it.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 55 points 11 months ago

Even if you know windows and all those settings, windows pushed updates that add popups and bloatware.

So you don't have a choice even if you do disable it uninstall things

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 11 months ago

maybe people shouldn't have to do all that to use the system they paid for without being bombarded with ads

just a thought 🌈

[–] siha@feddit.uk 37 points 11 months ago

Candy crash in start menu along with a thousand other ads, inabiltiy to delete internet explorer and cortana until recently, asking to buy microsoft365 after every update, constant telemetey and tracking with no option to opt out completely, and so on.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 28 points 11 months ago

Windows 11 is Microsoft bloatware and ads. They are getting more. The EU made Microsoft to add an option to disable ads because there was none.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 22 points 11 months ago

This is just factually inaccurate corporate shill talk. In windows 10 I had to completely gut the Microsoft store using regedit to actually stop the ads that come directly from Microsoft. And then you can't use the Xbox app (for access to game pass) which is basically the only reason I would want windows to start with (among other things it completely breaks) ... And that's a pc I built with a "clean" windows install.

When it "upgraded" itself to windows 11 despite opting out several times, and being bombarded with more ads and constant bs pop-ups, the last straw broke the camel's back for me. Moved all my computers to Linux only and haven't looked back.

It's nice the EU is doing what it can to curb Microsoft's invasive crap, but it also appears it only helps people in the EU and NA customers still get the bloated "OS" displaying more ads than an old geocities warez site.

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 18 points 11 months ago

Five years ago I installed Windows 10 direct from Microsoft's online store onto my Ubuntu laptop so I could play some Windows-only games.

It was fine for a while, but after some updates the Start menu began shoving ads (I believe Candy Crush was a big one) into my shortcut panels.

It's true that I could go deleting them one-by-one, and probably hunt down settings to disable them, but I find it repulsive that I paid for an operating system only to be personally made into a product for Microsoft on top of that. I've decided I'm never going to spend another dollar on such predatory behavior, even if it means I'm throwing away a significant portion of my video game library.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My answer to these kinds of statements is always 👏🏼use👏🏼enterprise👏🏼edition

Edit: It's also a way to stick it to MS because you have to pirate it basically.

[–] FedFer@iusearchlinux.fyi 32 points 11 months ago

School and Linux always create something beautiful

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit. No school with the ability to install Linux on a computer would lack the ability to redeploy them, sell them on or donate them.

I remember working years ago with a guy who once told the most fucking tedious story about his trip to the post office. When he detected that noone gave even the most faint shit about his milquetoast existence he just blurted out "and then I stopped an armed robbery" and refused to elaborate. That last bit about the creek sound like that.

[–] twix@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago

Although you do have a point, the school could as likely have contracted a third party to do the deployment, and cut ties fast as soon as things went awry. Then the last part seems reasonable, although embellished.

[–] MayonnaiseArch 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Popups? Were they using windows seven with grandma's internet explorer? Popups

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 76 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Open Edge on a fresh win 11 install

-give us your data

-Bing is great!

-please try Edge

-get our rewards

-Bing AI!

-don’t change the bloated ad-filled home page please

-oh god please stop downloading Firefox

[–] MayonnaiseArch 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's true, it sucks. Although that happens once and it's done. But I always have to find ways of making gnome usable, like where is the minimize button? It's nice using linux, I'd love to. But the thing is I'm not saying windows is good, I'm saying linux is complete shit too. Everything has some dumbass issue or other and it's on the cusp of breaking. And we have to use all of the crap

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Linux perfect? Absolutely not and I have never made that claim.

My point was merely that Windows users are bombarded with popups from the start and Microsoft are only going to get more aggressive with their monetisation practices.

Im annoyed about stuff all the time on Linux but rarely do I feel the seething rage I get when Windows tries to push ads on me. On an OS I fucking paid for.

[–] MayonnaiseArch 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that's fair. It's just that for some reason I don't get ads at all, maybe because I use w10, or maybe because I'm in the poor world so ads don't make sense maybe.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GNOME should set better defaults. I shouldn't need even two extensions for basic desktop functions (I know minimize button doesn't need an extension, not specifically that).

[–] MayonnaiseArch 2 points 11 months ago

Well you see how it is. Windows knows better, gnome knows better too. Who are we to have ideas about our own workflow or desktop or whatever

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Discord starting at startup and windows forces it into focus so I have to click back on the thing I was doing... Like 3 or 4 times. Repeat for anything else that starts at startup.

At one time I had set a song to play through a slowly-loading media player so that I could leave and when the song played I knew my computer had loaded.

Now on Linux, everything loads just the same but doesn't force switch the focus.

[–] MayonnaiseArch 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll give you the focus stealing, it's crap and it's never going to be solved. But you can choose startup applications. Oh, and my computer boots in no time even though I have an old install with a crapton of stuff I need to autorun. It's not about the os

[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And the PC of my brother needs like a Minute to show the login screen and then another minute for getting more than 8 fps on tge desktop. Otherwise it works fine so he won't let me take a look at it but as far as I know he doesn't have any startup programs, meaning that this probably just is Windows 11 being shit.

[–] MayonnaiseArch 1 points 11 months ago

I get that, but I had shit experiences with linux. And never tried 11

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, something is definitely wrong.

Try running SFC /scannow in command

Might also be that one of his USB devices is being scanned during boot. So unplugging every USB device may also help the problem.

That or a hard drive is failing.

You can also take a look at the Event Viewer to see what it is trying to do during boot. (most probable location: Windows Logs / System)

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

The focus switching is a grand crime! I too hate it!

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

That's one thing I hate on windows. Don't switch focus for me. Or let me startup apps minimized or something. I don't want to be typing away in something, then mid sentence it's switched to another app that takes a little while launcher to launch

[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago

if your startup takes long enough to need a song, you have too many startup programs.

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago

Lol

  • gnome parental control
  • user not in wheel / sudo group
  • flatpak user apps
  • configs stored for wheel user and overridden
  • policies for Firefox etc
  • automatic updates
  • hardened firewall, no open ports
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

Wtf fuck that school?

[–] adamantris@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

Can't wait for the European DMA to kick into effect on windows. While Steam Proton works quite well for most games, some are sadly unable to run on anything except Windows.

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Incredibly common KDE W