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A coronial hearing into the death of Noongar man Jeffrey Winmar heard police cancelled a request for paramedics before he died from a suspected heart attack.

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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’m all for hating the cops but that’s a bit of a misleading headline.

The court heard police handcuffed Mr Winmar and placed him in the recovery position before calling an ambulance.

The request was cancelled when he came to.

A short time later Mr Winmar again lost consciousness and stopped breathing, as police requested another ambulance and did CPR until paramedics arrived.

That just seems like an appropriate first-aid response to me?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

First aid is just that. The first step to proper aid. Surely if he’s unconscious and an ambulance is deemed appropriate, he needs medical attention, even if he comes to. Cancelling an emergency ambulance may be appropriate, but no medical care may not be.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 11 months ago

Cancelling the ambulance was not appropriate

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And does it say he was denied further medical attention after cancelling the ambulance?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago

No, not that I saw. Nor does it say it was provided.

[–] surreptitiouswalk@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

No it's not. People don't generally lose consciousness, so even if they regain it, they should still be escalated to advanced care to be clinically assessed.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

I'm still wondering whether an unconscious racial bias might have impacted their decision to cancel the ambulance?