Warren v. DC: "Police have no obligation to protect people."
Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales: "Police have no obligation to enforce the law."
Heien v. North Carolina: "Police have no obligation to know the law."
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This is a bizarro version of the three monkeys.
Protect no people, enforce no laws, know no laws?
Who the fuck thanks cops for their service? Is this some kind of American thing??
You’ll also hear a lot of stories from people in the service industry about cops expecting not to have to pay for food/coffee when they go out to shops, and getting indignant when they are still asked to pay after flashing their badge.
A lot of coffee/donut/pastry shops offer “service discounts” to cops, firefighters, and paramedics. It really took off after 9/11.
My so is a paramedic. They deserve it. Terrible working conditions. General shitty pay versus their responsibilities. City crews are overworked. Most calls are unnecessary. Police shove off any psych emergency calls to them. In the same sketchy situations as police and firefighters. Firefighters get all the glory and general do nothing compared to paramedics and the ambulance crew. Firefighters just act as first responders. So would work 12 hours and do nearly dozen calls... Creating overtime.. in the truck for all those hours. Just my opinion.
Bootlickers... You would be amazed how many Americans fall into that category.
Fun fact: contrary to popular belief, the United States of America is not the only country on earth, and it's laws don't apply to the other 195 UN member states and other unrecognized states and territories.
I'm not saying cops outside of the USA aren't bastards, but this isn't an argument against cops, more against the US government
There's a very good reason to thank them though. They're more likely to leave you alone if they think you respect their authority.
Then you can get away with all sorts of stuff while their backs are turned.
Say "Keep up the good work!". Think ACAB.
I like this sentiment; it is very good.
what the fuck america
How does this work? If cops have an obligation to uphold the law and assaulting someone is a crime...Do they not have a responsibility to stop that? Seems like judges are playing games with these rulings to me.
Basically no. They have an obligation to arrest the perpetrator. They can't be made to risk their safety in defending you tho. So no, they don't have to protect you in that situation and they can still do their "job" by arresting the perpetrator after.
That's what I mean by playing games, though. You have to do some mental gymnastics to land at a place where attempting to thwart a crime being committed doesn't fall within one's obligation to uphold the law.
Your error is in thinking they "thwart" the crime. They don't. They punish after the fact. That's still upholding the law(punishment for breaking it) without protecting a person. There is no law that says they have to put their lives in danger, so they're not breaking any laws when they don't intervene.
It's not mental gymnastics. It's that laws are specific so as not to be too broad and overreaching and in this case, there is a massive Blindspot that has not only been allowed to exist, but has been further codified in legal precedent.
"Protect and serve" is a PR statement. It is not a codified law anywhere.
Don't forget Uvalde.
Don’t disagree but shouldn’t we be frustrated w/ judges a d politicians here? The grocery store cashier didn’t set the price of the oranges
That might be true if the police were ever designed to actually "protect and serve" and their purpose was being twisted, but they've always existed only to serve the rich and protect their property, nothing more.
Bottom line - be frustrated with them all, judges and politicians (and the ultra rich who own them), and the police, since they essentially serve to uphold each other.
Truth but we really need to vote, make ourselves strong and participate with principle. It sucks but someone has to do it.
If voting actually changed anything, they wouldn't let us do it.
Now I'm don't saying don't, I'm saying it's bare minimum (and that a protest vote still counts, in the UK at least, so you don't have to actually choose a clown, to participate), and at best is going to change the puppet in charge, but never the theatre we're in, they designed it that way and have only ever given us the illusion of choice.
The whole lot is a cancer and needs to be abolished - capitalism, 2 party "democracy", the police and "justice" system that serve both, and in our case the cherry on top - royalty, aristocracy, and gentry. Those profiting and otherwise benefiting from those systems are never just going to give it all up and hand over equality to us, they will, and pretty much are, take humanity down with them before giving up their positions of power. There is no loophole, they have not provided a way within the system for us to free ourselves, if only we just do the right voting combo. The whole thing is rigged to keep us always fighting for survival while they reap the rewards.
Instead of continuing to play by their rules, the working class need to build our communities up (with things like community kitchens, communal childcare, "libraries" for all sorts of household objects, and so on and so on, to make sure no one is in need), foster solidarity to combat the division they sow to keep us weak, and unite to be the force for them to reckon with we always have been.
E: LMFAO at a person who uses Jesus in their name downvoting this, as if it isn't exactly what Jesus taught.. 😂
Protect property. Yes. Protect you. No.
I'm sorry, WTF!? This is why we need private protection.
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