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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's interesting how we all are focusing on tiny non-noticeable performance gains when privacy is what matters in browsers.

Almost as if Google wants us to focus on performance where they can compete.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Performance absolutely matters. I've dropped firefox like 5 times in the past 10 years because either it's stability with extensions was bad, or it handled tabs so poorly it felt like memory leaks dragging my entire PC down. At the end of the day you have to actually be able to use the browser.

Performance absolutely matters.

And I am trying firefox again and have experienced two crashes. i'm still giving it a chance but I need to stress that the most important thing is that it fulfills it's main purpose, browsing . If my #1 concern was privacy I wouldn't bother with the browsers altogether.

edit: It is worth mentioning I don't think performance has anything to do with privacy, and firefox could absolutely have both. It just hasn't in my experience.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Two crashes after you just installed it? That's not normal at all. What system do you have?

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 7 points 1 year ago

The same people will have chrome eat ram or crash and just shrug and restart. It's not about the browser. It's the same "I use chrome because everyone else is insecure" "a zero day was reported for chrome last week" "yeah, everyone has bugs sometimes". They have a narrative they want to believe and they self select to support it.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Windows 11, listed all installed extensions in response to other user.

[–] strawberry@artemis.camp 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've literally never had ff crash on me. are u running really old hardware?

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

2 years at best , still able to run new games on highest settings.

twice in past 2 weeks. Completely random.

If you were interested extensions are:

Libredirect
Improve youtube (for youtube & videos)
LiveTL
Auto Tab discard (added after finding firefox devouring memory for some reason to the point youtube was lagging)
BetterTTV
Panorama tab groups
600% Sound Volume

Currnetly 52 tabs open, which I did both on Chrome and Opera as well.

Again this is still not to the point that I feel like I can't deal with it. The crashes were completely random and not to the point of becoming a trend.

[–] strawberry@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do u have those extensions in chrome as well? meybe its an extension

[–] ReversalHatchery 4 points 1 year ago

An extension shouldn't be able to crash the browser, though.

The crash details would be useful to know. The "windows reliability history" menu (how its called) of the control panel shows some of the useful things

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Similar. In Opera I used
ublock (forgot to include in firefox list)
Libredirect
Improve youtube
LiveTL
And a different sound volume extension

Prior to that in Chrome, I used
ublock
improve youtube
livetl
and yet ANOTHER volume extension (for some reason volume extensions get flagged a lot)

[–] strawberry@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got a five year old low end gaming laptop and I've never had issues. tbf I have 5 tabs usually open, 10 at most. s

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will say as an aside from our discussion, just to stress

I'm not trying to say Firefox is doing bad at performance (I know going through this explaining my setup it may sound that way)

What i'm trying to say is that in response to the original comment

It’s interesting how we all are focusing on tiny non-noticeable performance gains when privacy is what matters in browsers.

To basically say "Nono, performance is important! Please don't stop"

And yes, privacy is also important, Firefox can have both, and I really want to encourage that. Not one or the other.