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Being supportive of denying rights to loving couples instead of proactively fighting to change the mentalities appears as the easy, comfortable solution.
This is indeed an unpopular one.
How is it "instead"? Why do you want to use children as weapons in changing those mentalities? I personally value the well being of these children higher than the right to adopt for these couples.
(copying from another reply I made)
I believe legalizing marriage, normalizing LGBTQ couples' status first to prove the general society that they're not actually some sick perverted sickos before we allow children adoption, should be the first step. Also waiting for the old people to die out, to put it bluntly.
Keep in mind Poland is still a hugely conservative society, in full grasp of the Catholic church. It's changing, you can clearly see the trend, but on the other hand our current government is still actively painting LGBTQ+ as some sort of harmful ideology or what not. We have a long way to come.
You value the well being of children so much that you think they should remain orphans instead of being adopted by loving parents because people in your country are bigoted against those parents... Gotcha.
There are no orphans up for adoption in Poland, you have to wait your turn in line to adopt because there are so many couples that can't have children. My close friends waited over 3 years. The only kids in the system are the ones who are in the middle of a legal fight and can't be adopted.