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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3337820

cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/PCGaming/t/341789

This video is not monetized. This video covers our serious concerns regarding the data accuracy of Linus Media Group, including Linus Tech Tips, ShortCircuit, and TechQuickie, particularly as it relates to rushing content out the door to favor -- by staff's own admission -- quantity over quality. As the company continues to expand into its LTT Labs direction, the importance of accurate data increases; however, even as 'only' entertainment, there are still certain responsibilities to the consumer and the manufacturers to report fairly (and to have defined corrections processes in place). We tried to approach this as objectively as possible and hope that viewers are able to listen to the evidence we present, particularly as it relates to significant and frequent data errors that now present in nearly every technical review video.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Like I said in a Beehaw comment about the video, LMG needs to vastly improve their Quality Assurance process if they want their new "Labs" initiative to hold weight. I've watched LTT with friends more for the entertainment and taken the data with a grain of salt.

It's clear they need to slow down to review more carefully, whether that's by lengthening release rate and schedules, or by hiring more staff to spread out across projects.

Steve and Gamers Nexus were just putting together what the community already told Linus and co. Linus and his staff were clearly well aware that there is intense pressure to release on timelines that don't allow for proper checking at filming time and allow mistakes to pass through. This is from their own LMG produced videos, not taken substantially out of context.

So from the above I don't buy Linus' claims that Steve could or should have discussed this privately or anything. Steve is only bringing it up in this way because they have, to some extent, been wilfully ignoring these issues that are right in front of them and a chat with GN likely wouldn't have changed that. Why? My reasoning is recommendations to slow down the rate of release aren't good for business.

I've always appreciated GN's methodology and they pride themselves on holding a high ethical standard for their technical reviews. Not everyone can easily reach that same standard but the onus is on LMG to show that their tests are trustworthy and that starts with diligent, researched information, testing and good Quality Control.

(I won't touch on the Billet issue besides LMG fucked up on that and Linus needs to work that out with Billet directly and apologize).

[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Billet Labs incident crossed the line. That's not something you can just apologize or pay your way out of.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well clearly you can, because they sent LMG an invoice for it.

[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A) LMG stated that they reached out first to offer financial compensation.
B) LMG may have destroyed this company. Ask your self how much having your passion project destroyed is worth.
C) It's not about the money but the attitude. LMG is giving off "I'm paying you to fuck off" vibes. This should have never happened. LMG should be tearing them selves apart to ensure this never happens again. Not giving some half assed excuses.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

and D) Linus' post basically said "this is just a random fluke, and we dont need to take further precautions to ensure it doesnt happen again"

[–] natryamar@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can he not be an asshole for five minutes?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

He's a quick one to get himself into a bind.

[–] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

i found LTT's new response excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY

It includes taking a week to go through their internal process and clean every thing up. Linus proper is only at the end, with the new CEO and Yvonna talking about it from the get go.

[–] harrim4n@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In his forum post he commented somewhere in the thread that billet sent them a quote and they paid in full - so at least that part should be resolved. Still a massive fuckup though.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago

According to the new video that's a lie, and they didn't reach out at all until after this video was posted, they made an offer but billet has not yet responded to it or accepted it.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Nah in the forum post he said they haven't paid BL anything yet.

You gotta work on your reading comprehension my man. Linus explicitly said they had not paid anything yet.