Can you explain why Americans care so much about it given that most Americans are not even aware of what our own military is doing in Somalia, and all over the world?

[–] hewhomustnotbegamed@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No Russian gas => American LNG. That's why.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But on twitter it is #StandWithUkraine not #StandWithAmericanGas. Leftists and Democrats who are against fracking and the interests of natural gas companies are the most vocal in condemning Russia. I don't see the economic explanation panning out.

[–] hewhomustnotbegamed@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What does a hashtag have to do with what people believe in? I am talking about the economy here and the reality is that Europe will be in dire need of LNG if Russian gas imports stop.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

What does a hashtag have to do with what people believe in?

It's an example of the expression some are giving to the current situation. Of course it reflects what people believe. Sure, there can be dishonest framing from the elites. But your average liberal is going to take things at face value.

[–] liwott@nerdica.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not American, so I wouldn't know; I just explained why I, a European, care about it.
This would also explain why the media here talked way more about Lybia and Syria than they do about anything happening in south America, although there are less whites there.

I can still see other explanations that imo seem more plausible.

Close to the EU also means close to the western civilisation. This also explains why here we heard so much about George Floyd and BLM. Or do you think that it is because afro-americans are somehow whiter than africans?

Finally, let us recall that the Ukraine conflict is also a proxy war between NATO and Russia, another military superpower. World order is at stakes there. Or do you think American media actually care about the Ukrainian people?

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

It's reasonable that people would care about issues that economically affect them. However, the initial reaction is unlike anything we've ever seen. This was before the economic shockwaves had time to percolate.

Ostensibly, much of it has to do with people's moral concerns. People claim to care about Ukraine, not because it directly affects them, but because of the humanitarian aspect. This is apparent from the focus of the conversation on various claimed atrocities, the "stand with Ukraine" rhettoric. The issue is, all human life is valuable. So if it's about moral outrage, which it is, then you would expect to see proportionate response to other people's lives that matter.

If there was the same degree of attention to Ukraine, but the moral aspect wasn't as strong, it would be hard to argue a pattern of racism. But that's not what we see.