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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stop spying on your kid... Jesus.

[–] vegai@suppo.fi 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'd like to go against the stream and say that if you let your kids use the internet, spy the fuck out of everything they do in there. At least until they're something like 16yrs old.

Better yet, don't let them use the internet.

[–] Llewellyn@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Better yet, don't let them use the internet.

Good luck with that. And also spying is the best way to lose your kid's trust.

[–] vegai@suppo.fi 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And also spying is the best way to lose your kid’s trust.

Well of course tell them that you're gonna do it. I guess "spying" isn't the best word then?

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

'Monitoring' if anything is worse. After puberty a human needs some degree of privacy and autonomy. By all means use blockers, but reading their every google search, and especially making them aware of that, is only hurtful.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago

My parents used this as part of their obsessive-control emotional / psychological abuse. Mostly to try to indoctrinate me into their cult, and their extremist right-wing ideology. There is a place for filters, and even search reports - but search reports ought to end around 14 years, and by 16 there needs to be some form of legal recognition of privacy rights as a human being for cases of isolating abuse as a part of indoctrination. P*rn blockers etc on the router are fine though, the network legally belongs to the parents. But human being, at least after puberty, requires privacy for proper psychological development. Complete surveillance after that time is psychologically and emotionally harmful to both the child and the relationship.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm reminiscing the days in school where we'd use proxy sites to get around the school blocklist/monitoring to play dolphin olympics

[–] snowbell 2 points 1 year ago

I remember busting out an ssh tunnel and blowing everyone's mind

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reduce it gradually to 0 until 16.
Spare them the embarassement with their peers.

[–] vegai@suppo.fi 3 points 1 year ago

Gives them a good reason to hang around with friends, if they can get to the internet via them, right? :)

[–] Solaris1789@jlai.lu 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even worse using kaspersky...

[–] President@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

Invasive reports of literally everything. Making it way too easy to control your child to the point of psychical damage, and with some parents a tool for abuse.

[–] smellythief 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there’s a reliable way to only be alerted to specific activity, then the parents aren’t really actively spying, in the sense that the kids still have privacy when they aren’t transgressing into prohibited space. As long as that prohibited space is reasonable (huge debate possible there of course) and the kids know about the restrictions. imo

[–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this post is about a child being blocked then reported to their parents for 'teaching crabs to read'
I don't think you can defend it as a reasonable prohibited space

[–] smellythief 1 points 1 year ago

True. But the comment I was replying to was referencing the monitoring itself, not the outcome.