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[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

In other news, researchers have discovered that the sky is blue.

I know that studies like this are important for validating things that would otherwise be taken for granted. They’re also useful in debates when people want actual proof. But at a certain point, you have to accept that the person you’re debating probably isn’t arguing in good faith and is only sealioning to wear you out.

[–] ArtZuron 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep. The people that argue for conversion therapy are generally not the kind of people that are convinced by actual proof. Sadly.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You misunderstand.

This is proof that conversion therapy works because their goal is to kill us.

[–] interolivary 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly. While many reich-wingers – being the spineless fucks they are – won't say it out loud, they do want us all dead.

Somewhat oddly I respect an honest bigot more than a bigot who tries to pretend they're not one. Not to say I respect them very much, just that I respect them more than their fellow bigots who lie about what they are.

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[–] Pseu 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My parents briefly discussed sending me to a military-style boarding school because I was not the greatest kid at the time. This one wasn't the "kidnap you and force other kids to watch you pee," kind of place but it did bill itself as structured and instilling discipline.

Naturally, they googled and researched it and places like it. My mom found stories about the stress that such places out on students and research concluding that kids often end up with more behavioral problems rather than less. After that, they never brought it up again.

This kind of research probably isn't going to change minds in an argument, but there are parents of transgender kids who are exploring treatment options. They very well might be convinced by research when it comes down to sending their own kid to conversion therapy.

[–] ArtZuron 4 points 1 year ago

We can certainly hope that parents unaware do do the research rather than falling for the sales pitch, for sure. I'm glad you dodged that bullet thanks to your parents' actual attempt at researching it.

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