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[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Actually not accurate for "Rest of the World", China uses year month day.

[–] Ravi@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is the best date format for sorting stuff alphabetically.

[–] foo@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ravi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's also great, but unhandy for manual use. Imaging a folder full of files like:

2004-06-14T23:34:30+02:00_funnypic.png

04-06-13_funnypic.png is much better in that regard, but obviously is not that precise.

[–] Lemon1095@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't butcher it like you did, ISO8601 caters for any amount of precision you need.

For the vast, vast majority of my usage 2023-07-23 is sufficient. If you need a time as well just append the time and the nice thing is it'll still keep things in order (I've not found myself needing to use the timezone notation as well since I don't usually share dates cross-border). For work I use the week notation a lot 2023-W30-4.

04-06-13 is not helpful because now I don't know if you're European and mean 4th of June 2013, or if you're american and mean 6th of April 2013, or if you're some weirdo who means 13th of June 2004.

[–] Ravi@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

These are the iso standard timestamps I regularly use in code, which are precise but unhandy. There is no butchering, it's just one of the full standards.

As I said above it's highly unhandy to use the full string. The shortened two digits version is fully sufficient when operating in a controlled environment, because you know what each pair represents. As soon as you go into the great unknown, you can't say for sure what format is used anyway.

What we can definitely agree on, is that a standard process would help a lot, whichever it is. Preferably one that works well with alphabetically sorting.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

That is a timestamp, not a date. 2013-06-13_funnypic.png is better.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not funnypics but lets say your bills, stuff in your backup:

  • dr.sowieso-2022-02-01.pdf
  • dr.sowieso-2021-10-12.pdf

Gets sorted by name automatically.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also do because it is ISO standard. I also do 24 hours for time. I wish scheduling application would do that. I don't know how many times I have scheduled a meeting for 8PM the following day instead of 8AM.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 3 points 1 year ago

@SeaJ I agree on time, 24 hours makes it a lot easier to communicate times with people in other time zones and easier to calculate from GMT.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What china, isn't year-month-day some iso norm?

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, ISO 8601 or better yet: RFC 3339.

(You're actually allowed to read the latter.)

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, just saw that someone mentioned it already.