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There are few things quite as emblematic of late stage capitalism than the concept of "planned obsolescence".

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those Chromebooks aren't bricked. They simply don't get chrome updates anymore, even if it's just Linux+Chrome and updates could continue forever without any real effort from Google

For security issues they can't give to students unsupported hardware. The discontinued iPad would go in the same e-waste bin, because it's not like android where browsers will continue to get updates for years and years

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For a school they functionally are. They can’t use them if they can’t get security updates.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and instead the ipad that doesn't get security updates since 2018 in your example doesn't count?

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well for starters it wasn't purchased by or for schools so no. But even if it was, it gets far more than 3 years of support. I think 5 is somewhat reasonable if we're just going to accept this sort of behavior.

Either way the comparison is not really apt. Mobile devices are far worse about this than PC's. You should instead compare a macbook (or a cheap windows machine), which gets security updates for 7-10 years. Google knows their devices are very popular for school computers, so to treat them like mobile devices and enforce the terrible standards that comes with is pernicious.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you again chose a macbook for an example, some macs released in 2017 got less than 5 years of OS updates and became ewaste very quickly

choose a different company than apple for your "long time support" examples....

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It was one example, and if you'll notice I said "or just any affordable windows machine," I don't know why you're ignoring that.

As for the 2017 releases getting less than 5 years support, I have never heard of this nor am I finding any examples. Here is the Monterey (apple's current OS version) compatibility list, which consists of computers as far back as 2013. So I'd be curious to see what you're referencing. Catalina, the previous OS which dates back even further with compatibility, had security updates until about 8mo ago as well.

3 years is unacceptable on Google's part and Apple hasn't come anywhere close to that.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are you cherry picking? Check Sonoma compatibility list, only for iMac 2019 or later

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You need a source because this directly contradicts you.

That is not under 5 years.

Edit: Additionally, Monterey will get security updates until mid-2024. That's 7 years for your 2017 models, which is the most recent, and only impacts the 2017 MBAir.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you cherry picking? Check Sonoma compatibility list, only for iMac 2019 or later

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is it cherrypicking? The OS isn't even out yet. I'm literally going off the current OS.

Where is this computer that got dropped after less than 5 years?

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Ok sorry it will be out in October. Owners will get extra 3 months of support. This completely changes everything

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