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Hi all,

I'm seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I'm wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I'm pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn't the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I'm happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

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[โ€“] vegai@suppo.fi 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If anything anti-capitalist rhetoric is rooted in making sure all specialized roles get paid well instead of just the ones at the top.

However, as far as I know, every communist experiment has replicated a class system based on the prestige of one's occupation. A cleaner wasn't quite the same person as a high-ranking member of the communist party in Soviet Union, for instance.

I'm very interested in learning about theories how to circumvent such structures and systems from happening. It seems to me like it cannot be done with our current species, and communist theory definitely wasn't enough to counter that (apparently) natural process.

[โ€“] Tak@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So if you are ever critical of capitalism you're part of whatever communist experiment you're talking about?

Seems like quite the assumption and justification for the world being unjust. Capitalist realism isn't something you should fly as a defense of capitalism, it just shows you aren't willing to be critical of it and therefore have to be critical of something that many could argue never existed as Marx even said communism can't really exist unless everyone is living in a stateless and classless society.

Might I add it's really wild you think the economic system that has existed for maybe 200 years of the hundreds of thousands of human existence as natural.

[โ€“] vegai@suppo.fi 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean... you made lots of good points and then you end with this:

lol

Don't do that. It invalidates your message.

[โ€“] Tak@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, was an attempt to come off as light hearted and not a pedantic asshole but I think you're right and it makes me seem more the latter.