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The transphobia stops now (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[–] alternative_factor@kbin.social 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There was transphobia in 196? HOW?

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men's bodies somehow wasn't transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for providing good context on this thread. The original comment was ass, but not important overall. If the mod hadn't decided to explicitly defend it, this wouldn't even be a conversation. This entire discourse would have been avoided if it wasn't for a shitty mod post.

Nedankinde. This is an issue we all care about, after all.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people seem to agree it wasn't transphobia, but here's the context: https://lemmy.world/post/1893561

There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active, but they got shut down pretty quickly

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active

That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.

[–] Juno 2 points 1 year ago

I was thinking about this in the context of a conversation I was privy to recently boiled down it was basically "I don't have a problem with trans people But...sexually assaulting kids is bad But...teaching sexual orientation to 3 year Olds is bad"

I don't want to have to feel like I need to "just leave"

[–] alternative_factor@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The post seems transphobic in a "chaser" sort of way to me, not trans though.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems very "chaser" to me. In other comments, the poster mentioned how he was attracted to "post op trans women and pre op trans men". Grouping those two demographics together in this way will never be seen as not chaser.

[–] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone who fetishizes trans people. You find trans people hot? That's totally fine, you can have preferences. But grouping post op trans women and pre op trans men sexually is saying that they're being viewed as women regardless of their identity.

If you wanna fuck a trans person, it should be because you're attracted to them. Maybe you like boobs and penis together and that's fine. Maybe you like a masculine chest and a vagina. You can be attracted to a certain intersection, even if that intersection is a straight one. But fucking them because they're trans and exotic is chasing. If you like women, fuck trans women. If you like men, fuck trans men. But don't just randomly flip them around like there's no difference to you.

[–] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you. It was my first time hearing the term.

[–] persolb@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I didn’t realize this was a trans community. I thought ‘196’ was just some random number like the ‘4’ in 4chan. 196 just had good content. The fact it’s inclusive is just a bonus.

It's not a trans community per se, it's more of a more trans-friendly shitposting community. Like, I think, even now majority of posters aren't trans. And majority of content is not trans-themed, it's not traa. It's a good place if you don't want to see only trans-themed memes, but also don't want to see transphobia