if you want to call attention to the fucked up shit that the USA and NATO has done in the last couple of decades, comparing it with supplying weapons to a democracy to defend itself against an invading bunch of fascist war criminals is definitely NOT helping your case

edit: I have been informed that Ukraine isn't perfect, and that therefor the invasion and the long list of war crimes perpetrated by the invaders are justified

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A democracy that recently announced that it postponed elections, a year after declaring the opposition parties as illegal.

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that postponing elections during a war is : a, fucking logical, because how to fuck are you going to get a representative vote if half of the country has fled or is on the frontline and b, their constitution says there can’t be elections during martial law. source Every fucking pro Russian troll arguments in this thread need to be ousted here before this place gets to be a Russian troll pit as well.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just the reply I was expecting, thanks for walking right into the trap where you conveniently failed to even mention the opposition part.

And I'm the troll.

Edit:

Even Foreign Policy isn't as one-sided as you are in their portrayal of the situation:

Concern over the decision to postpone Ukraine’s elections has come from both Ukraine’s friends and foes. [...] On the other hand, PACE President Tiny Kox said that while he recognizes the enormity of the struggle Ukraine faces, the country must uphold its obligations under international agreements to hold elections. “It is up to [Ukraine] how to solve this challenge,” he told a Council of Europe summit in May, adding that “there will be no complaints against Ukraine if the elections are not ideal. But if you do not hold elections, then everyone will have questions about you … without elections, democracy is impossible.”

Unless PACE is also just a Russian troll. 🤡

But indeed, elections during war/state of emergency are unconstitutional and highly impractible. Still funny you dodged the opposition point I made.

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Untill you give me a source that states that the opposition isn’t able to function, I’m going to treat that part of your argument as blatant misinformation.

[–] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least you're open about your complete lack of awareness of this war. It's shocking you're even participating in this discussion though. The arrogance of offloading basic research of topics from a year ago to someone else to prove that I'm not spreading misinformation is quite something though.

Ukraine has had to take extraordinary measures to fight Russia's invasion. Among them, the government has consolidated the country's television outlets and dissolved rival political parties.

Source is NPR: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110577439/zelenskyy-has-consolidated-ukraines-tv-outlets-and-dissolved-rival-political-par

[–] DaDaDrood@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Blocking opposition parties is not pretty. Not all opposition parties were blocked tough, only the ones with strong ties to Russia. source

[–] krzschlss@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Democracy? The US and NATO aren't fighting for democracy. They are losing a cheap sex tourist destination in Eastern Europe because of this war. That's worth all those Billions! Don't give me the "defending democracy" excuse!