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You ever think about how borders and countries are just some extreme rich guy shit that we've all been trained to believe are real? (self.chat)

submitted 1 year ago by DJDarren to c/chat

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Like, the only reason countries exist is because some rich guys decided that they ruled this chunk of land, and everyone else just kinda said "Yeah, whatever, I don't really give a shit, just let me farm and leave me the fuck alone".

Then the rich guy on the next bit of land said "I want a bit of what he's got going on", and before we knew it, all the bits of land were ruled by people who's only claim to them was that they were the first to have the idea.

Fast forward a few thousand years, and some of the bits of land are ruled by people who wear gold hats and spout a load of bollocks about divine right, while some of the bits of land are ruled by people who convinced the rest of the people to let them do it, and really, there's no difference between, like, France and Spain, but some old dudes drew a line and said "Nah, that bit speaks this version of a language, and that bit speaks another version of it".

You ever think about that?

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[–] themobyone 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you over oversimplifying somewhat. Most countries have a very deep history and a long chain of events that leeds to what is now their countries and borders. There has been plenty of kings and rulers of different lands, and wars fought over said land, but again this have evolved a lot over the ages.

One idea you're touching, that borders aren't real can be a good one. When astronauts take their first trip to space some of them are almost overwhelmed by whats called the 'overview effect'. Seeing earth as a blue marble, with no borders and realizing we all share this small island of life we call earth circling around the sun. In this regard it would be nice in a distant future that what country you were born into has no limits to you possibilities in life. and no one will judge you because you live on the "wrong" side of a border.

So yeah, I think about it from time to time.

[–] DJDarren 8 points 1 year ago

I think you over oversimplifying somewhat.

Well, yes.

But the maintenance of borders as a means of control is some real rich guy shit.