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I wrote this post for a friend, I'm sharing it here for anybody it might help. I got asked multiple times how I download cracked music software so I figured it'd be easier to write it down once. It's meant for people with very low technical skills who just want to start torrenting software without major risks, and it includes a bunch of safety tips that are already known in this community.

If you have feedback, let me know and I'll update the post.

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[–] Deletecat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

After a quick glance over your post, I have some thoughts;

Free: ProtonVPN

ProtonVPN is good for torrenting on the paid plan, not the free plan. Proton doesn't allow torrenting on their free plan. They will block your connection if they detect that you are torrenting, or they will disconnect you from their VPN tunnel - exposing your real IP on the torrent.

Paid: Mullvad

Mullvad is a decent choice, though they no longer support port forwarding. ~~You are still able to download, though you won't be able to seed iirc~~

VirusTotal

The problem with a virustotal scan is that pirated software is often false flagged for malware. It's difficult to tell what is safe from what you've downloaded. It's best to download from a trusted uploader, though that doesn't always guarantee safety as they can always go rogue (As an example, FTUApps were seen as safe until one of their uploads to 1337x contained malware).

Older uploads tend to have less false positives in my experience, though it can be very easy to become complacent.

edit; score out comment about mullvad seeding, others have pointed out that it still works fine! oops

[–] S0berage@mstdn.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Deletecat @andscape mullvad works when seeding, false information.

[–] Deletecat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've scored out that part of the comment now.

I was under the impression that you couldn't seed without port forwarding, guess I was wrong :p

[–] S0berage@mstdn.ca 2 points 1 year ago

@Deletecat it's not necessary on a VPN level when your router has port forwarding configured properly. App tunnel splitting can be used to dox your IP but allows the DHT table and trackers to "find" you, then just disable it to hide your IP. Simple, but not recommended.

[–] andscape@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for the report about ProtonVPN, I haven't used it in a bit so I didn't know. Do you know a better free VPN which does allow torrenting? I know a paid one would always be better, but this is for people who are just not willing to spend money. A shady free VPN is better than none.

For VirusTotal I know about the false positives, that's also why I included the reddit post on how to interpret the results. I still find a scan to be good practice to weed out the more obvious malware.

[–] Phrax@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In that case, direct downloads (in conjunction with ProtonVPN free) would be a superior method. The article makes piracy sound synonymous with and exclusive to torrenting, but DDL and Usenet also exist. Many of the megathread categories have DDL links right at the top.

Cs.rin.ru is mainly gaming focused but has an FAQ that covers general DDL concepts like source trustworthiness/scene names and workarounds for filehoster limits. You could probably paraphase/quote or screenshot with credit (ironically) to save a login. The same people not wanting to sign up for a VPN might also look askance at a .ru domain.

[–] andscape@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

The article makes piracy sound synonymous with and exclusive to torrenting

It was only meant to be a guide about torrenting pirated software specifically, not pirating software in general. I also started by linking to the megathread to link people to other resources.

I don't really want to add a whole other section about DDL just because I feel I couldn't do it justice, and people have probably already done a better job at that.

[–] Deletecat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you know a better free VPN which does allow torrenting?

I don't, sorry. There are free VPNs which have been recommended in the fmhy wiki, though I don't know if they support torrenting and/or port forwarding.

Edit; just remembered about windscribe, you can torrent on the free plan, but data is very limited so might not be a good option either

[–] wifienyabledcat 1 points 1 year ago

wait I'm still able to seed on Mullvad, was the change recent?

[–] depressed_submissive@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is going to be a total noob (and thus stupid) question, but is it possible to selfhost a vpn?

[–] Deletecat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

No such thing as a stupid question :p

Yes, you can self-host a VPN! Though there are a few things to keep in mind if you are going to torrent using one:

  • A self-hosted VPN on your own network isn't good for torrenting. Your own IP is still shown to other peers on the torrent, you might as well torrent without the VPN.
  • Depending on your server host, you may not be allowed to torrent on their network.
  • If you are allowed to torrent, you will have to watch your bandwidth limit*. I have a cheap VPS - for other things unrelated to VPNs/torrenting - and the limit is 20TB of traffic
  • Many hosts will respond to DMCA/Abuse complaints - very few are relaxed and ignore DMCA complaints, others may shut off your access to their services after a single complaint

*some hosts do not have a limit though cheap servers usually do.

From what I can tell, most server hosts don't care about what you are doing with your server, unless your server is gathering abuse reports or using an excessive amount of resources constantly. I would go for a subscription to a VPN instead of self-hosting but that's just me.

[–] ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how do you check for viruses without a bunch of false positives?

[–] S0berage@mstdn.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure that won't also get a bunch of false positives because it detects that a file is a keygen or crack?

[–] S0berage@mstdn.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ScratchySoft it should know the difference between a virus and a keygen, yes.

[–] ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I sure hope so.