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Treating people differently because of their beliefs? I'm not even that conservative, but you sound like the real bigots.
My favorite thing is when a conservative finds themselves outside of one their safe-space, echo chambers and are shocked to discover that not only do regular people not agree with them, but they find their views so abhorrent that they actively view all conservatives as complete pieces of shit. And they are not wrong to do so.
i'm the real bigot because i dont want to shag someone who happily advocates for making it as hard as possible for me to get gender affirming healthcare and openly supports the neoliberal privatisation that's devastated my country?
yes i very openly discriminate against conservatives, i have no plans for stopping or apologising
Pffft, just means that your beliefs have consequences.
Something something tolerance paradox.
You realise that beliefs are a shifting scale, right? Not everybody with beliefs right of center are alt-right Nazis. I can't stand those people either.
I used to be similar to you, until I met people with a whole host of opinions. I wish you well.
If 11 people agree to share a table with 1 nazi, you have a dozen Nazis.
How's the Maths education where you are?
Oof. You’ve just said that you either have an inability to process a simple aphorism, or, worse, you think it’s fine to ally with Nazis, effectively proving the truth of the aphorism.
How's your English education?
Never said you were, but that doesnt mean the cutoff point has to be all the way "out there" for conservative and problematic in the long run.
Besides, what do you even know about "me" given you say you used to "be like me"? You know, well perhaps not nothing but not much. And i too have met people with lots of different oppinions, yet i didnt leap towards the right, quite the opposite in fact. So... if you "used to be similar to me", well then you're close to falling into the deep end.
Here is some free advice: careful with what you assume you know about someone you never met before.
We're discussing ideologies of hate, exclusion, and domination. Such ideologies do not tolerate anything less than absolute compliance. So no, there's no shifting scale here; your side won't allow there to be one.
No you don't, and that's the whole problem.
I also treat racists differently because of their beliefs, as well as sexists. I guess I'm the real bigot here.
Well, no, that's perfectly understandable, since those people are impacting other people.
But not everyone who has conservative opinions is a racist and a sexist alt-right weirdo.
.... do you think that conservative positions don't impact other people?
My guy, I can rattle off at least half a dozen conservative bugaboos without which I would be quite literally dead. Don't give me the "Well, it's just their opinion!" bullshit.
There is no type of politics that doesn't affect somebody.
Literally dead? That seems like you're being dramatic, my guy.
I'm a mentally ill cripple with multiple chronic illnesses and severe social anxiety. I've been in spots in my life before where government assistance of multiple kinds has been the difference between life and death. Don't give me the 'You're being dramatic' bullshit unless you've vomited blood to the point of near exsanguination, had to ration life-saving medication, had breakdowns on the side of a freeway, shattered a thigh, went quite literally without food for days for lack of means, etc etc etc etc. In all of those cases, government programs have, at least once and often multiple times, been the difference between life and death for me.
Go fuck yourself.
Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas
the lack of free healtcare kills many people every year.
Maybe a small portion, but that just means they're 100% okay with those as long as the already super rich can be the tiniest bit richer
Excuse me for... *checks notes* ...choosing who to pursue relationships with based on our common values or the lack of them.
Phrasing it that way is really solid and makes a lot of sense.
Conservatives: "We don't believe that you should have full control over your body and will happily pass laws to prevent you from exercising that control, including laws that will send you to prison for a life-saving medical procedure."
Women: "oh fuck. Wow. Uh. Okay, I will not be associating with you."
You: "WOAHHHHH WOAHHHHHHHH WOW CALM DOWN THERE LITTLE MISS BIGOT HOW ABOUT SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE HUH?"
"Im not that conservative" said every conservative ever when arguing on a left leaning platform
I kinda get a kick out of the ignorance some conservatives bring to the table. It's almost cute, if not so stupid.
You should read up on the paradox of tolerance, and why Conservative attempts to play the victim card only expose their hypocrisy.
Would a black person be justified in not wanting to date a white supremacist? Or would you call the black person “the real bigot”?
You should 100% treat people different depending on their beliefs.
Not wanting to date somebody is not the same as "treating people differently". You're arguing in bad faith
Not wanting to date someone because of their beliefs sounds like a perfectly valid reason. Especially if those beliefs can impact someone's rights
Believe it or not, it's perfectly normal to only want a relationship with someone who shares your core values. You conservatives (don't lie) might understand that if you actually tried to have an actual relationship with someone instead of trying to establish ownership over them.
I'll think of you when I punch a Nazi.
Yeah, like Nazis are scared of you.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/410/015/531.jpg
Less than a day between "conservatives arent all bad guys, stop being so mean" to literally defending Nazi's.
Yea bud, I'll just go ahead and use you as an example of exactly why people feel the way they do in this thread.
I hope this is a bit.
Choosing not to date someone isn't really treating someone differently, 7 billion people on this planet you're not gonna date most of them
When it comes to dating? Yes. Absolutely. Why would you think that beliefs are a non factor for dating?
huh??? some people have the belief that women are inferior, its a GREAT reason to treat people differentlyXD what about nazi??
Hello! You have fallen into the tolerance paradox; how can you be tolerant when you're intolerant to intolerance? Easy I'm tolerant because I don't tolerate intolerance. Beliefs aren't equal, anyone who believes in inferiority or inequal treatment for reasons outside ones control should be called out. It is not a live and let live mindset, it's a "live the way I tell you to or you're a bigot" doesn't sound very liberty loving to me. You can dislike it, you can rant, but once you limit peoples access to equal rights and treatment you're infringing on their rights. Any freedom loving American can respect that.
When their beliefs include hating me, yeah, I'm going to treat them differently.
No cause we don't advocate for them to be punished in any way. We just don't want to fuck them.
I mean I form all judgements and treat people different based off their beliefs and actions as the former lead to the latter...
I don't mind their different beliefs, what matters is the fact that they try to force it on everyone else. You think being gay is bad? Then don't be gay yourseld. You think getting an abortion is bad? Then don't get an abortion. But the moment you try to force that on anyone else is the moment you're inviting the world to shit on you. After all, no one is passing laws to discriminate against straight cis people, or forcing everyone to get an abortion.
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