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Any critiques, desire for clarity, outright hatred, whatever have you. I will respond the best I can.

I know there's been some blowback on some of the policy updates but it's been difficult to really explain fully that the restrictive content policy is temporary, this community was very unmanaged for a time and it had to be reigned in somehow and with the limited tools at disposal the temporary policy changes were made.

Here's a comment that also explains a little bit behind the decisions made recently as well.

For community mods, we have a community mod coord matrix group chat now. Feel free to DM about it.

Also, there's another ongoing discussion regarding SFW communities on lemmyNSFW here.

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[–] paddedperson@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I have been dealing with nonstop reports of non consent. As aparantly unless someone is actively holding a sign saying "I consented to this" signed and dated prior to the interaction it's now rape.

For example this post has been reported for rape:https://lemmynsfw.com/post/101797

And a post continues to be reported for rape becouse "(in the anime) the character depicted would never have consented to this, therefore it's rape"

The default position that everything is rape, unless explicitly stated makes running many types of communities impossible.

This is made worse as other people have pointed out (including me) that 62 percent of women seek out CNC content (including my wife).

I also still struggle with the canonical age limits... link and zelda are only above 18 in one game so I have been consistently responding to reports from the lost woods community sending links to game wikis showing that they are above age. It is also weird to me that 90 percent of anime characters are considered loli regardless of how they are drawn, and that I have to argue that characters like rem are from later seasons as otherwise they would also be banned.

Edit: one other note, some users have also informed me "a school uniform means that it's loli" due to their understanding of the rules

[–] hwagoolio@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

On anime girls in school uniforms / school settings, my take is that it shouldn't be allowed unless it's known canonically that they're 18+.

I realize from our discussions that you believe that school uniforms should be allowed unless it's known that they're canonically underage, but this leaves a huge gap in artist OC with unknown ages. Over the years, I've listened to many people throw up this defense like a shield ("Oh they're just cosplaying! We don't know their age but they're definitely adults!"), kind of like the 1000-year-old loli shield, but current guidance from the admins suggests that they prefer a conservative approach.

[–] pornonmain@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago

I just lost my really long comment that I had written, so I'll make it quick..

Can the admins please clarify?

  • My understanding is that the non-con rule only applies to IRL non-con that happened and was recorded in media, not stuff is like drawings of fictional characters, correct?
  • How do we identify non-con? So far I understood that to mean explicit rape play, where a person tells the other person to stop and they don't, but it seems people are interpreting this rule far broader? What is your definition?
  • What are the requirements for a "sauce with obvious context" that's proofs that something is consensual? Their profile says that all their recordings are consensual? It's a professional shoot with a company? It's an official post from an OF/Fansly creator? What counts as proof?
[–] Leora@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have to agree with @paddedperson. There have been several cases where I as a mod have been unsure if something should count as consensual, as it's rarely just outright stated. It's made me a bit hesitant to post certain things, myself. I've also had reports of characters being underage, but all of the reported content, except for one post, have featured original characters with no specified age that to me could very well be young adults, or the character(s) are maybe 17 in the beginning of a series (Legend of Korra), but are 21 or so by the end of the series. Even the post that did feature characters that were slightly underage was a bit unclear to me if it should have been removed bc it only featured softcore type porn of characters from a series with prevalent female nudity (Ranma 1/2). I did end up removing that one.