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It's the pendulum swing of pretty much every community on Reddit.
It happened to basically every big sub on Reddit once reaching a large enough size.
Yeah! And it helps that there is no karma here. We just give a hoot about preservation and sharing. :)
Even though it's meaningless I have seen some people in different communities voting down comments and posts they don't agree with like on Reddit which is unfortunate.
For the piracy community I hope it doesn't just turn into passive aggressive comments directing people to the megathread all the time.
I like helping people dig for obscure stuff
Joke's on them, my instance doesn't have a downvote button, downvotes don't affect me in the slightest :P
That's beehaw right <.< Quick curiosity, does that extend to other instances for you? Or can you still downvote as long as it's not on a community within your own instance? I didn't make my own account there, but I read the explanation for no downvoting and I felt like it made a lot of sense.
No, it's lemmy.blahaj.zone. :)
Can't downvote, and downvotes don't affect my experience in any way. Top is sorted by raw upvotes. If someone downvotes, it's the same as if they didn't vote at all to me.
I love it!
Ah yeah, I guess I could have checked the rest of your profile name lol. That's very cool! It's really making me think more about which instance I wanna stick with as a primary.
I haven’t downvoted a single thing since joining here. I feel like all I did on Reddit was downvote, there was just a deluge of irritating nothing-comments and posts there. There’s such better discussion here. I’ve already discovered some awesome stuff (like movie-web.app, holy shit) and had some great advice from nice folks about where to go for information on stuff I wanna do.
I hate to say it, but I think the relative inaccessibility of Lemmy makes the community wholly better. Reddit’s decline really began when any cunt with shit views could easily download their app, make an account in two seconds, and spew hate all over. Before that, it was just nerds like me who sat at their computer all day to chat.
Unfortunately I feel like that hate and those shitty views are going to spread here soon. I've already seen some people unnecessarily gate keeping over niche topics which is one thing but there's also hateful communities. I can block them but another always seems to spring up.
You might be right about the cycle but there is certainly value to keeping a community small IMO. That chase for higher and higher numbers gets old and evidently has an inverse correlation to post quality.
I think it’s less about keeping the community small and more about not incentivizing karma or whatever scoring equivalent exists.
That's where the mods kick in. That's why Askhistorians are awesome and some other subs are not.
Subs die or prevail with the mods at hand. If the users grow, but the mods do not, and it becomes too much for the mods to handle, it will fall. It's easy logic.
The problem isn't the quantity, the problem is moderation in regards to the quantity of the userbase.
This might be a problem for shititjustworks. Where lemmyworld has been expanding their mod team and admins, I haven't seen posts of shititjustworks doing the same. They seem to be struggling with a subset of exploding-heads users posting horrid things and signing up under new accounts when banned, which doesn't help.
Also, some might suggest bots, and scripts to auto-remove comments and posts to help for moderation. While this might indeed help, there still needs increase in mods eventually if the userbase grows, but maybe less more than it is needed without any scripts.
Think like this: You need to go from point A to point B. You can do it walking, you can use a bicycle, or you can use a car. All of them needs energy (moderators). Some more than others. If you use tools, you need less, but still you need to use it. And if the distance of these two points become bigger, you need more energy, but of course a car helps tremendously, but still you need to focus on the car and use energy.
So a 1 person moderators with all the tools, bots and filters won't help much if there is an user-base of millions in the community.
Man I remember watching this happen in realtime to r/AbruptChaos. There were two simple rules 1.the video must start out calm 2. there must be an abrupt moment where multiple things start happening at once. It slowly went from every post being great, to more than 90% of them being chaos the entire video or only having one bizarre event. Idk if it was moderation getting loose or karma-farming or both but hopefully its a while before that starts happening here.
A lot of reddit subs push the shit too. Look at any text-based story subreddit. They all inevitably get a "don't question the facts of the story" rule, which then invites charlatans to start lying.
TalesFromTechSupport and IDontWorkHereLady are probably the two best examples. They went from "I was asked to fix a guy's computer and he was using the CD tray as a cup holder" or "A woman came up to me at target and asked where the corn was and I said I dont work here and she got embarassed" to just utter made up farces and bullshit
I always thought the "Take everything as truth or in good faith" was more about the fact that it's really difficult to truly figure out if something is fake or not and if you start enabling people to declare stories fake, then you risk ostracizing the OP and people that are thinking of posting similar stories.
As well as it helps prevent needless discussion over the text. It just seemed more sensible to make the decision to wash your hands of it and not think too deeply about it than let the comments go wild arguing with each other over the story.
Yeah but then you wind up with stories where the antagonist is comically evil; a mustache twirling bad guy right out of vaudeville. And don't forget, "everybody clapped"
Well yeah, but I've never been bothered by that. I just tab away.