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Interesting point on the microwave ovens. I live in the Netherlands and every apartment I've lived in comes with a standard combination oven and microwave, i.e oven sized microwave. Is that something standard in the US and not standard where you are?
I've seen it more there, for sure. Here I've seen it once or twice, in expensive homes that got a very early microwave when it was a luxuty and built it right into the furniture. Most other places have a secondary spot for a smaller microwave. I actually went and got a combination one, still smaller than many of the ones you see in the US, and found that it wouldn't fit in the microwave spot in my kitchen, so I ended up having it over a counter and using the microwave shelf as a spice rack.
Wait are these microwaves one unit, or a separate oven and microwave? Here in the states they're always separate, though sometimes a microwave might be above the stove and function as a smoke hood.
Something like this render from Best Buy is common enough. That's what I'd call a normal size microwave in either case though, just different mounting options.
I could certainly fit a microwave inside my oven, so they're not really too similar size here unless you get a moderately large one. In fact, that render only has a kind of weird scale, the gas range and oven seem about right.
Yeah so they're one unit, you turn it on and then choose to oven, microwave, grill or a combination of all 3. I've found combo low wattage microwave with oven to be great at quickly heating frozen food for example.
I think the major difference is that it's rarer to have a combination stove and oven. The stove is usually separate and built into the counter top, similar to how a sink is installed. I have normal drawers beneath my induction stove, but it's also common to have the oven as a separate appliance below the stove. My combi oven is above the inbuilt fridge instead. Just whatever the designers of my rental place thought works well, the main point is that they don't have to be together.
Woah, neat! Thanks!
We don't see many induction stoves here, though they do exist they're really expensive compared to a glass top. The few houses in wealthy areas that I've been in have pretty much all had an induction top and two stacked ovens.
I mean, to be clear just because I have an induction stove doesn't mean everyone here does ;) although these days you can get "budget" option induction cookers. I see a lot of inbuilt traditional electric, but gas stoves are slowly becoming less common in NL because new buildings usually don't have gas.
Oh yeah, I didn't think it was probably everyone or most everyone, but it seemed at least more common than here where it's rare.
Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest I thought it was everyone, I just think they're really cool tech and having it be more common is cool.
As a fellow Dutchy... my current place is the first place I ever lived in that came with a combination oven and microwave.
Previously I've always had to supply my own microwave / oven ;-)
True that, I think it's more a case of that I've been renting in brand new apartments most recently, and a combimagnetron is the standard for all new construction in cities these days.
Although it's true that my Oma has them separate. But even then, the microwave is built into the cupboards, it's not a "loose" appliance on the counter top. That seems to be more of a thing in US/UK from what I see
Yeah I think it's the same... new apartments come with almost everything including the proverbial kitchen sink.
My current place (built in 2008) has a kitchen that includes an microwave oven, fridge and stove top. The only thing it doesn't have is a dishwasher.
What's always fun is that new Dutch apartments come with an entirely equipped kitchen, dishwasher and all, but then they come without a floor (bare concrete), and the walls are bare plaster.
Then as a renter I get to pay for all of it, and at the end of my lease I'm looking forward to playing the bluffing game with the next tenant. I'll try to sell my floor to them, while they try to get it for free under the assumption I don't want to spend time ripping it up if they don't pay.
They will lose.
Hehe yeah, that's always fun. The bare concrete. At least it's better then Germany, where you have to bring your own kitchen...
When I had the viewing of my current apartment, they said they were gonna give me a 10 litre bucket of white paint. Even tho the place didn't look that badly painted, but more because they always did that.