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New evidence strongly suggests that OceanGate's submersible, which imploded and killed all passengers on its way to the Titanic wreck, was unfit for the journey. The CEO, Stockton Rush, bought discounted carbon fiber past its shelf life from Boeing, which experts say is a terrible choice for a deep-sea vessel. This likely played a role in the submersible's tragic demise.

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[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think most billionaires have a bit of their brain set to believe in themselves rather more than is warranted. It's great for making money, but maybe not something you want to put your life on the line over.

[–] ollien 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it scratches a similar itch as most techbros: "if I can solve this hard problem, all problems are easy!" It's a mentality I see constantly, especially on the orange site.

[–] Dee_Imaginarium 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Problem: exists for decades and has not been solved by experts with tons of funding in all that time.

Redditor with zero knowledge or context: Why don't they just do X, Y, Z? It's so easy 😏

[–] beefcat@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

In this case, the problem was solved over 60 years ago. This billionaire decided to reject the tried and tested solution and came up with their own.

[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

I like asking the "why don't they..." question as a genuine question because it's a great way to learn a lot in a short time

[–] cassetti@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's worse than that. They're narcissistic and think they have the answer to every problem. I worked for a boss like this who had Aspergers syndrome (undiagnosed, but clear case)

He literally had bumper stickers made up with "[his name] is the answer" - he wasn't joking. If there ever was a problem he would immediately solve the problem in his mind, and that was the way we MUST do it. He would not accept rationalization as to why that might be a bad idea. I learned real fast not to tell him we had a problem.... until I already had a proposal, who was involved, and costs involved to fix the problem before he had a chance to solve the problem himself.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

especially on the orange site.

Hacker News can be so engaging, but then you go to the comments and it's so enraging.

[–] dipbeneaththelasers@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was a study done on this kind of mentality. Researches invited pairs of players and before each game flipped a coin to designate one player rich and the other poor. The rich player was then given more money and an easier set of rules. At the end of the game they interviewed the player that inevitably won, and in all cases the players reported that they won because of key decisions they made while playing. Not one mentioned they got lucky with the coin flip.

Summary and interview with a researcher: https://www.marketplace.org/2021/01/19/why-rich-people-tend-think-they-deserve-their-money/amp/

Study (pdf): https://studenttheses.universiteitleiden.nl/access/item%3A2661526/view

[–] swope@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised this isn't a named sort of cognitive bias. I think there's a related thing where we humans tend to cite external causes outside our control when we are unfortunate or make mistakes, and we tend to cite our own virtues when we are fortunate and successful.

[–] shiftenter@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think this would be considered Self-serving bias.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if anyone has 12 minutes to spare, this video goes into that topic

https://youtu.be/3LopI4YeC4I Veritasium: Is Success Luck or Hard Work?

[–] Jo@readit.buzz 9 points 1 year ago

but maybe not something you want to put your life on the line over.

To be fair, their hubris usually only kills poor people so, progress?

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It's implicit bias.

Our forefathers has orchestrated a world of scarcity. They raised us telling us how America is in overwheming, inescapable debt (even though that debt is a useful byproduct of our financial excess and has no deleterious effects on our future) and how everything will always cost something and how we are fools for ever thinking anything could be better than this, right?

After living through that, if you become a billionaire you must feel like you are by and large exempted from those rules.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed. You need a bit or a lot of narcissism.

[–] zlatiah@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I had a good bit of thought about this too... This kind of mindset should never be allowed in customer-facing fields in the first place (cough cough all the social media privacy hellhole we are in today...), let alone ones that risk human lives tbh.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

A bit of the 'it wont happen to me' mindset.